The guy who drives the WRX isn't a bad 'punter' and I had quite a few laughs watching his 'form' when starting behind him in the sprints, he definitely had it to its limits.
The poor old WRX suffers badly from understeer and underpower. I'm sure a few hundred bucks on lower springs and camber mods would make the world of difference. Cam CM510 www.datnet.org/cm510 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > He must not have been driving hard enough. A WRX should be able to do heaps > better. But hey, it makes me look better. Also, winton, if your turbo > isn't setup right, can be a bugger for blown engines. Especially the short > track. The amount of corners and short straights don't really give you a > good chance to use the boost, were as with a na, you just belt out of > corners with no lag. From what you were telling me you're motor comes on > boost if I remember right, at around the 2000rpm mark. This would be fairly > lag less. Some other turbos I have seen, especially modded WRX's and the > such, come in around the 4000rpm mark, and are vicious to drive out of > corners. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CM510 > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 7:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > That's a fair effort too Greg, > My mate had his MY02 WRX there and his best lap was a high 1.52. > > A bluey wagon only giving 3 seconds a lap away to a 45K wrx is a good look > :) > > Cam > CM510 > www.datnet.org/cm510 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:59 PM > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > Not a bad time Cam. My best so far was 1.55.67 in the srde wagon. So > > you're absolutely thrashing me. To give you an indication Peter Numeister > > (r34 gtr - thinks he's the bit and the shit- has around the 260kw at 4 > > wheels, with major money spent at avo), is doing 1.41.78, and John > Belfield > > (gti-r pulsar sr20det with I think around the 400hp mark also tuned by > avo- > > mad man!!) is doing a 1.40.95. 1.45.7 is pretty good for you're first > time. > > Should get it down a bit more. You're not having any luck with the rear > end > > holding together hey!!? > > > > regards Greg > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin > > Friedrichs > > Sent: Monday, 10 December 2001 3:39 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > Cam, > > > > Tarmac Rallies are wot I'm interested in, but it would also be for my > daily > > cruiser. > > BTW this is for my L-series datto 16. > > I've been enquiring some time now about shocks and I've heard that even in > > 20 year old rally cars fitted with KYB shocks, the condition of KYB shocks > > are like new. But with some bilstein shocks the tops have blown off with > > hard use. And bilstein are used heaps in competition and I know there an > > awesome shock. > > Konis sound perfect for the road and track, but I want to make a decison > > pretty soon. > > > > Cheers > > Justin > > > > > > > I'd just like the adjustability.... > > > > > > Very hard to give an honest answer about the limits of the KYB, I don't > > > think I've really had the front end of the car at it's limits. More > track > > > time is needed. > > > > > > Will you be doing much track work or just road driving? > > > > > > Cam > > > CM510 > > > www.datnet.org/cm510 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Justin Friedrichs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:53 PM > > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam, > > > > Are the KYB's at there limits? or do ya just want the adjustability > > > > options? > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > > > Yep still std KYB's in the front, adjustable konis at the rear. > > > > > > > > > > Will get adjustable konis for the front when/if I get the spare $$ > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > CM510 > > > > > www.datnet.org/cm510 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Justin Friedrichs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:26 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAM, > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you still running the KYB's upfront?? Still putting in the > > > > > > Konis?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally got some R spec rubber on the front (big difference), > > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > unchanged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure with some more track time (finding the limits of the > new > > > > > rubber) > > > > > > > and a bit more sorting I can clip another couple of seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > > CM510 > > > > > > > www.datnet.org/cm510 > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Pooley, Trevor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:57 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1min 47.10sec is our best time there. Although we dropped off > > > the > > > > > pace > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > time we were there, the best was a high 1min 48. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1min 45sec is a pretty good time around there. Have you done > > > much > > > to > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > car since Sandown? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Trev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Cam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 10 December 2001 12:09 > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trev, > > > > > > > > I Managed a 1.45.7 at winton on Saturday (first run) before > > > blowing > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > R180 diff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You punted around there before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > > > CM510 > > > > > > > > www.datnet.org/cm510 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Pooley, Trevor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:57 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G'day Jake, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been too busy racing the other 1600 this year to > really > > > get > > > > > > > stuck > > > > > > > > > into it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Summer project is to work out how to fit everything in the > > > engine > > > > > bay. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > wasn't happy with my first attempt at the engine mounts. I > > > pretty > > > > > much > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > how to make them now though. I need to get the engine futher > > > back > > > > > and > > > > > > > > crank > > > > > > > > > centerline, centered in the engine bay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a GTiR intercooler which should fit nicely as a front > > > > > mount, > > > > > > > > infront > > > > > > > > > of the radiator hole. I will need to change the tanks on it. > > > Hot > > > > > air > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the turbo will enter through a hole in the rad support > pannel, > > > low > > > > > > > down > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the passenger side. The outlet of the i/c will exit at the > top > > > and > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > straight into the throttle body through a 90 deg bend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am concerned about getting a radiatior that will fit as > the > > > I/c > > > > > > > piping > > > > > > > > > will dictate the max width and the front pulley's the max > > > > > thickness. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > other problem is where to put a thermofan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still have a big parts list to finance including an R200 > > > LSD, > > > > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > > wheels and paint job plus all the small extras which chew up > > > lots > > > > > of > > > > > > > > money. > > > > > > > > > The plan is to have it ready for the NDSOC driver training > day > > > > > next > > > > > > > > november > > > > > > > > > at Sandown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Trev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Turbo 510 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2001 15:33 > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker on this list and don't often have time to post > > > but > > > I > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > like to clear up a few points regarding FJ vs SR. I don't > > > claim > > > to > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > everything about these motors but I have had an FJ20DET in > my > > > 1600 > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > last 4-5 years and my brother has had an SR20det powered > 1600 > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > past > > > > > > > > > two years. I am also about to put a CA18det in to a Sunny. > > > > > > > > > The weight difference between the two motors is SFA. Both my > > > > > brothers > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > car weigh 1040kg on the same weigh bridge. The SR DET is a > > > heavy > > > > > block > > > > > > > > > because of the external bracing required to handle the turbo > > > > > cylinder > > > > > > > > > pressures. The SR also runs a huge alloy girdle and a tiny > tin > > > > > sump > > > > > > > > hanging > > > > > > > > > off that rather than the traditional tin sump of the FJ. > > > > > > > > > Strength is incomparable. A standard FJ with 80k kms on it > > > will > > > > > > > happily > > > > > > > > rev > > > > > > > > > to 8500rpm. An sr will break the rockers at those sorts of > > > rpm. > > > > > > > > > The SR is a much nicer engine with much better NVH > properties > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > extremely smooth. If I where building an everyday streeter I > > > would > > > > > > > chose > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SR over the FJ. However if you want a motor with big hairy > > > balls > > > > > that > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > can strap a big T04 on the side of, chuck in a set of > forgies > > > and > > > > > > > abuse > > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > in day out nothing matches an FJ. They might not be smooth, > > > but > > > > > they > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > damn strong. > > > > > > > > > The FJ was originally the FJ24. It was NA and produced > between > > > 240 > > > > > - > > > > > > > 280hp > > > > > > > > > depending on spec according to the S110 240RS factory parts > > > manual > > > > > I > > > > > > > have. > > > > > > > > > If anyone would like a copy of the manual I can supply it. > > > > > > > > > Sorry to get on my soapbox but the misinformation spread > about > > > all > > > > > > > import > > > > > > > > > engines is something I find quite irritating. > > > > > > > > > Jake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw > > > > > > > > > Trev Pooley, How far off is the new race car? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Anthony La Malfa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: FJ20 - max power - Summary > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:43:57 +1100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I think we all have to agree that after what everyone has > > > > > > > mentioned... > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >we can settle on the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(1) The FJ20 is a basic brute horsepower motor. Anyone who > > > wants > > > > > to > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > >some serious horsepower by adding a big turbo and a set of > > > forged > > > > > > > > > >pistons... stick this motor into any car and you'll be > > > rocketing > > > > > > > away. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >motor, is not for people who are concerned about motor > > > weight, > > > > > > > > smoothness, > > > > > > > > > >petrol consumption or noise, but merely people who want > bang > > > for > > > > > buck > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >pretty much stock motor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(2) The SR20 is a smooth, technologically advanced motor > with > > > > > > > potential > > > > > > > > (if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >someone knows what they're doing) to create some serious > > > > > horsepower > > > > > > > > aswell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >It's the kind of motor you'd put into a car that you want > to > > > > > drive > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > >day, and keep the reliability and smoothness of a pretty > much > > > > > stock > > > > > > > > factory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >motor. I think their weeknesses are their alloy block (for > > > > > strength) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >their conrods and an obvious with all factory turbo > motors... > > > a > > > > > nice > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >forgies wouldn't go astray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In summary....... personally I like both motors and if I > had > > > to > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > >another motor (as I already have an FJ) I would probably > try > > > an > > > > > > > > > >SR.....however...we can compare a few situations and > > > setups.... > > > > > the > > > > > > > 200SX > > > > > > > > > >Funny Car (Can't think of his name at the moment)... that > > > opted > > > > > for > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > FJ20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >instead of the SR20 and runs 8's .... and the SR20 in that > > > little > > > > > > > white > > > > > > > > > >datto that does consistant 11's and ofcourse we can't > forget > > > > > > > GGHOST??.... > > > > > > > > > >depends what you're after at the end of the day and what > you > > > plan > > > > > on > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > >with the car... oh yeah and did I mention how much money > you > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >spend??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thought I'd add my 10 cents worth for anyone who cares :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anthony > > > > > > > > > >GOD-20L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Alford > > > > > > > > > > To: Ozdat discussion list > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: FJ20 - max power > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was speaking to an engine builder last night (in > Sydney) > > > who > > > > > is > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > >some head work for me, the guy is a guru with Nissan > engines > > > and > > > > > love > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >FJ20, anyway, the conversation eventually got onto the > > > inevitable > > > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > > >- "How much horsepower can we get..........." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The answer of course was " Are you planning on winning > > > Lotto?" > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I lied to him and told him I was! (Doesn't everyone plan > for > > > that > > > > > > > day?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now curios to find out what people are getting out > of > > > > > both > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >Turbo's and naturally aspirated FJ's and even SR's. 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