Dam - there are some intelligent people on this list.

Andrew I have no idea what you just tried to explain, but I do understand
the basic concept. It's good to know that we have people on this list who
can actually "figure out" the engineering aspects of the cars we love - good
work mate!

Mark.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: question


> Hi Bob,
>
> Because of the strut suspension on the front, the "effective" spring
> rate at the wheels (or wheel rate) is roughly the poundage of the
> springs. But because the springs are inboard on the rear, their
> influence at the wheels is reduced, so stiffer springs are required
> on the rear to have the same effective rate at the wheels. Terry
> says this spring to corner (wheel) ratio is roughly .26
>
> I may be wrong but I think he gets this from:
> Kw=Ks*(IR)^2
> where Kw = effective rate at the wheels (wheel rate)
> Ks = spring rate
> IR = installation ratio, or motion ratio = y/x where y = the resulting
> spring compression from a wheel deflection x
>
> ie the spring to corner ratio is a measure of the spring position to
> the wheels. Terry is saying IR^2 =.26, because for a given
> deflection at the wheel, the 1600 rear springs compress roughly
> half that amount??
>
> Im open to corrections, and sorry for the backwards explanation!
> Andrew
>
> > What is the spring to corner ratio a measure of?
> >
> > > Ben,
> > >
> > > It depends on the car i.e. IRS etc? On a 1600 most of the good
> > handling dirt
> > > versions have slightly softer springs in the rear. When you look at
> > the
> > > poundage rates on a 1600 allow for the spring to corner ratio on the
> > rears
> > > which as around .26:1 and on the front with stock struts the rate is
> > 1:1.
> > > i.e. 200# front springs are the same as ~800# rear springs. On a
> > 1600 RC a
> > > good starting rate is 175# front and 600# rear.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Terry
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben
> > >   Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 12:05 PM
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Subject: question
> > >
> > >
> > >   bit of a strange question. my brother has sent me his RC car to
> > rebuild
> > > for him. im just setting up all the suspension at the moment. just
> > > wondering, with a normal car setup, are the rear springs stiffer
> > than the
> > > front, or is it the other way round??
> > >
> > >
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