its the shaft thingy which has the copper wire wound around it. and each end is supported by a small bush. this holds the armature by a tiny amount , away from the field coils. where the armature spins, the field coils go around it. if one or both of the bushes are worn, this causes the armature to touch the field coils, and can flatten the battery pretty quick, and turns over slow. look for scratch marks on the armature. ]
mark k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Re: starte motor question > Mark, you've lost me, what is the 'armature'? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > hi, are the bushes that suppotrt the armature in good nick? > > > > mark k > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > I took the starter motor apart, here's a pic of the bushes....they are > all > > > larger than the factory recommended(11mm) > > > > > > http://members.optushome.com.au/adamja/starter.jpg > > > > > > Terry, > > > > > > Where abouts are the tabs that you mentioned? I couldn't see them on the > > > solenoid?? > > > > > > cheers, > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 4:58 AM > > > Subject: RE: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > Adam, > > > > > > > > If this is a genuine SR starter then they have a couple of L shaped > > copper > > > > tab contacts in the solenoid that wear out. The solenoid setup is a > bit > > > > different to L starters i.e. the solenoid has a steel ring in the end > of > > > it > > > > and when you hit the start switch this ring makes contact across these > > > tabs > > > > in a fairly violent manner. Over time they get a grove worn in them > and > > > they > > > > wont carry the amps to fire the starter. Most auto electricians will > > have > > > > replacement tabs, usually better quality than OEM and they are fairly > > easy > > > > to fit. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Jackson > > > > Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 11:06 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > thankyou very much David, i'll take it apart tomorrow morning and post > > > some > > > > pics and see what you think > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "David & Melanie Flaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:09 PM > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best way to see how much life is left in it is to undo the motor > > > wire > > > > > off the solonoid and then remove the two brush box retaining screws > > from > > > > the > > > > > rear housing followed buy the two through bolts. Once this is done > > then > > > > > just lift the end cap off followed buy the field body. With the > field > > > > body > > > > > off the brushes will sit right down into the slots and you will see > > how > > > > much > > > > > more wear you have in comparison to the armature diameter. If there > > > worn > > > > > out you will see pit marks on the brush surface and possibly on the > > > > armature > > > > > also. If this is the case just take the field body with the brush > box > > > > still > > > > > on down to your nearest sparky and have him solder on new ones as > this > > > > will > > > > > be the cheapest method of repair. Note check the bearings on the > > > armature > > > > > also as these spin at incredible rpm's. Let me know how you go. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:16 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks David, will do....if they brushes are worn, is it worth > > trying > > > to > > > > > > file them just a little bit? > > > > > > > > > > > > or just throw the starter and get a new one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "David & Melanie Flaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be fooled buy that fact that it works with no load on it. > > > > Whilst > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have it off why not rip the back cover off and check the brush > box > > / > > > > > > > commutator for wear? > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pulled out the starter motor and tested it straight from the > > > > battery, > > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > to work a-ok....probably a loose wire somewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "if you bite off more than you can chew then chew like hell" > > > > > > > > -Peter Brock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:08 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You haven't charged the battery in 3 months - I'll back that > > the > > > > > > battery > > > > > > > > > need a charge overnight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Adam > > > > > Jackson > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 6:09 PM > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Subject: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi guys, having a little trouble getting my engine started > > > again. > > > > I > > > > > > > > started > > > > > > > > > it(sr20det) about 3 months ago with minor probs(ignitor pack > > > > wasnt' > > > > > > > hooked > > > > > > > > > up). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just put the engine back in the car and the starter > motor > > > > isn't > > > > > > > > kicking > > > > > > > > > into action. I can hear it clicking and can when touching it > > > feel > > > > it > > > > > > > > click. > > > > > > > > > Just wondering if maybe it is stuffed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't quite get my hands in to check power is getting to > the > > > > > starter > > > > > > > > > correctly, but i assume since it's clicking that it is?? All > > > wires > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the starter are powered up so to speak. It's the same > battery > > i > > > > used > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > > time, so lack of power shouldn't be an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
