Yeah thats true! Thanks Terry and Cam and others... For now the car has decided it wants to start, so i guess i'll wait around until next time it won't and then do a little bit of exploring to see if i can source what is causing the problem and eliminate it. I think you are right Cam in that a general tidy up of all the ignition wires would probably help a lot to fix the problem. Oh well, i guess i should be happy that i have learnt something else about my car - so that way if it happens again i might be able to diagnose it myself! Thanks again guys, Mark
--- andrew smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Another email for my terry rudd tech file. > >Terry Rudd wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> I pretty much agree with the diagnosis of your problem - it is most likely >> to be crook BR or coil connections. There is another problem that can also >> be intermittent that will give the same symptoms but with a technical >> difference. Did you happen to notice if the tacho bounces around -above 0 >> when you are cranking when trying to start? If it happens again, then >> observe the tacho as it will tell you on which side of the coil you have a >> problem. If the tacho needle bounces around when cranking then an ignition >> problem is on the Positive side i.e. BR or coil, ignition switch for sure. >> If the tacho is motionless when cranking then an ignition problem is on the >> switching side i.e. -ve coil, points, condenser etc. I've noticed that the >> last couple of sets of Bosch packed Hitachi GH207 points I've seen have a >> much larger than usual nut on the insulated pigtail connection and this nut >> if not seated absolutely flat i.e. horizontal then it is possible for it to >> just touch the points return spring and this will short out the points - no >> switching via the contacts, no start. Honda Civic (72) ventilated or genuine >> Nissan Hitachi points are far superior to the Bosch packed made in God knows >> where variety that you get from Supercheap and Kmart. >> >> regards >> Terry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:membersozdat_owner@;datascribe.com.au]On Behalf Of Cam McKinnon >> Sent: Friday, 1 November 2002 8:39 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: URGENT - starting problems!! >> >> You might find that cleaning up all the connections and making sure >> everything is crimped and plugged properly might even solve it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Cam >> CM510 >> www.sprite.com.au/cm510 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:23 PM >> Subject: Re: URGENT - starting problems!! >> >> > I think that is correct - it is shorted out when starting to increase >> > current to the coil for a bigger spark to get the thing running, and >> > then when it is running it falls back to a lower current to stop the >> > points from burning out premarturely. >> > >> > Friday, November 01, 2002, 7:55:48 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > CM> Yeah that's it, not worth anythin really, just got to find one. No >> doubt >> > CM> some one will correct me if I'm wrong, but the purpose is to increase >> > CM> voltage or current to the coil under 'start' conditions to help fire >> the >> > CM> engine. You could probably just jump the ballast resistor and find >> that >> > CM> you'd cure the problem. >> > >> > CM> Cheers, >> > >> > CM> Cam >> > CM> CM510 >> > CM> www.sprite.com.au/cm510 >> > >> > CM> ----- Original Message ----- >> > CM> From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > CM> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > CM> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:47 PM >> > CM> Subject: Re: URGENT - starting problems!! >> > >> > >> > >> Hey Cam, thanks for the reply, >> > >> what exactly is the ballast resistor?? >> > >> Is it the resitor looking thing that is screwed onto the inside front >> of >> > CM> the engine bay?? just near the coil?? >> > >> Would this cause a problem that comes and goes as it pleases?? because >> > CM> sometimes the car starts and sometimes it wont! >> > >> If it is most likely this, where do i get a new one and how much are >> > CM> they?? >> > >> Thanks mate, >> > >> Mark. >> > >> >> > >> --- "Cam McKinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >Ballast resistor is stuffed >> > >> > >> > >> >Cheers, >> > >> > >> > >> >Cam >> > >> >CM510 >> > >> >www.sprite.com.au/cm510 >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:36 PM >> > >> >Subject: URGENT - starting problems!! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Hi all, >> > >> >> sorry but this is URGENT - >> > >> >> my 1600 refuses to start :( >> > >> >> It had the same problem a few days ago and i thought it was the fuel >> > >> >evaporating in the carb cos it was real hot, but today the engine is >> > CM> almost >> > >> >cold and it still doesn't start! >> > >> >> I found that it runs fine when the starter is engaged but when you >> let >> > CM> the >> > >> >key turn back the engine dies :( I dont think it has any spark or >> > >> >something... >> > >> >> What could cause this? Is there some way i can check whats wrong/fix >> > CM> it?? >> > >> >> ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!! >> > >> >> Thanks guys, >> > >> >> Mark. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> > >> >> Get Your free Ozdat Email Account >> > >> >> ---> http://www.ozdat.com >> > >> >> >> > >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> > >> >> Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > CM> w/No >> > >> >Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> _____________________________________________________________ >> > >> Get Your free Ozdat Email Account >> > >> ---> http://www.ozdat.com >> > >> >> > >> _____________________________________________________________ >> > >> Select your own custom email address for FREE! 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