I'll throw a spanner in the works, my brass button 4 puck clutch and 1800pd
pressure plate cost me 350 bucks through  the 1600 shop.  I don't know what
guys complain about with the brass button on/off action, I can "slip" the
clutch without it biting and spinning the wheels, to me its seems like a
normal clutch!


Daniel Kroehn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B


> Chris,
> Sounds exactly the same as the clutch that was on the engine when I bought
> it.
> 4 pucks on the clutch plate with springs around the centre hole (is that
> what you mean by "sprung centre"?) The guy I bought it off said it was a
> "brass button ceramic plate clutch". It has had some use and is nearly
down
> to the rivets thus the need for replacement.
> I don't know much about clutches although I've replaced a few standard and
> standard/heavy duty ones and not having a car hoist in my back shed, I
hate
> changing them so I want something that will last.
>
> So far these are my options;
>
> 1. Standard pressure plate with sprung centre ceramic button 4 puck clutch
>  -recommended by Chris (FJ MAN) and Mark Brettle
>
> 2. Daiken extreme 4 puck sprung centre rated to 600hp very heavy duty
> pressure plate and hardened steel facing will cost close to $500
>   -recommended by Andrew (Smith I think),probably overkill for my piddly
> 200Hp
>
> 3. RB30 (vl commodore) clutch  plate will fit a l/z series ?
>    -info from Mark K
>
> 4. Bluebird standard clutch kit part no. R170N for $121
>
> 5.Bluebird  Heavy-duty kit price t.b.a.?
>
> 6. Fairlady clutch kit part no. R171N for $143
>
> 7. A 4 puck with a combination of 2 organic and 2 ceramic pucks.
>   -recommended by  Errol ...interesting
>
> Thanks for all those who gave their opinion -some of these were dug out of
> my archives.
>
> Now it's decision time.....hmmm..
>
> Regards
> Rob P
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "FJ MAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B and andrew smith
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob how much were you lookin to spend on the clutch. If youre lookin at
> > buyin new and it comes to more than 400 bucks with pressure plate let me
> > know before you buy and you can inspect my clutch as it is similar to
what
> > mark is sayin below (sprung centre for normal drivin with 4 puck for
> better
> > bite). As i said before not tryin to make you buy it, but if youre
lookin
> at
> > spendin a similar amount, it might be worth your while inspecting this
> > clutch (literally havent used it). Andrew Smith, if you know of anyone
> > chasin a custom intercooler, or z18/20 or an fj20 box or a clutch like
the
> > one im sellin feel free to let me know (even the fuel supply if you know
> of
> > anyone doin a efi conversion),
> > regards chris
> >
> >
> > >From: "mark brettle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B
> > >Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:05:54 +1100
> > >
> > >hi Rob
> > >  i use a Standard pressure plate with Sprung centre Ceremic button
> clutch
> > >plate looks like normal clutch plate but with 4 pucks on it you can
drive
> > >the clutch like normal and ride the clutch when you need to but when
you
> > >abuse the clutch it holds i have never had any problems with L20 dyno
> with
> > >153HP at wheels
> > >
> > >hope this helps as i have tried lots of different types of clutches and
> > >this was the only one i found that would hold up to my abuse
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Rob P
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:57 PM
> > >   Subject: Clutch for a 200HP L20B
> > >
> > >
> > >   Listers,
> > >   It is nearly time to put my worked L20B rally motor into the Datsun
> > >1600.
> > >   What are my clutch options? My intended use is mainly for rallying
on
> > >sealed roads and motorkhanas but also has to be driveable on the street
> > >occasionally. The twin 45 Webered motor apparently puts out 200 HP
> (150kW)
> > >at the flywheel. The flywheel is aluminium but with a hardened steel
> insert
> > >faceplate wear surface. The gearbox I will use is probably gonna be my
> > >trusty old 240K 5-speed or an untested Stanza SSS box. The clutch that
> came
> > >with the motor was a 3-puck brass button clutch but it is nearly gone
and
> > >I've been told that they are pretty much either on or off with
virtually
> no
> > >slippage (scarey in the wet).
> > >   I checked my archives and Mark K says an RB30 VL Commodore clutch
will
> > >fit an L/Z series motor. Is this a heavier duty clutch than your
standard
> > >L20B Bluebird replacement?
> > >
> > >   Andrew smith wrote;
> > >   I use the clutch factory who are also known as precision
clutch.Mines
> a
> > >240mm
> > >   job.It uses a competition brass plate with a 3100lb pressure
plate.Its
> > >not just
> > >   a standard type pressure plate with a heavier diaphram it has a
> > >different
> > >   fulcrom point and steel plate.The l20 flywheel had to be redrilled
to
> > >suit.It
> > >   has stood up pretty well so far.Ive used there old style brass
clutch
> > >with a
> > >   heavy diaphram pressure plate and that lasted a couple of weeks.The
> > >daikin
> > >   clutch i had lasted less than a week and was sliping in top gear
from
> > >the word
> > >   go.
> > >   Andrew Smith
> > >
> > >   Now I don't want to redrill the flywheel, so will a standard type
> heavy
> > >duty clutch suffice?
> > >   Can I get the 3-puck brass button redone?
> > >
> > >   Sorry to waffle on but clutch changes are not my favourite job, I
just
> > >want something with some slip that will stand up to some thrashing.
> > >
> > >   Cheers,
> > >
> > >   Rob P
> > >
> >
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