him yeah same here , i have a ceramic 5 puck and with a bit of experiance you can drive it fairly normal. mark k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:06 AM Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B
> I'll throw a spanner in the works, my brass button 4 puck clutch and 1800pd > pressure plate cost me 350 bucks through the 1600 shop. I don't know what > guys complain about with the brass button on/off action, I can "slip" the > clutch without it biting and spinning the wheels, to me its seems like a > normal clutch! > > > Daniel Kroehn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B > > > > Chris, > > Sounds exactly the same as the clutch that was on the engine when I bought > > it. > > 4 pucks on the clutch plate with springs around the centre hole (is that > > what you mean by "sprung centre"?) The guy I bought it off said it was a > > "brass button ceramic plate clutch". It has had some use and is nearly > down > > to the rivets thus the need for replacement. > > I don't know much about clutches although I've replaced a few standard and > > standard/heavy duty ones and not having a car hoist in my back shed, I > hate > > changing them so I want something that will last. > > > > So far these are my options; > > > > 1. Standard pressure plate with sprung centre ceramic button 4 puck clutch > > -recommended by Chris (FJ MAN) and Mark Brettle > > > > 2. Daiken extreme 4 puck sprung centre rated to 600hp very heavy duty > > pressure plate and hardened steel facing will cost close to $500 > > -recommended by Andrew (Smith I think),probably overkill for my piddly > > 200Hp > > > > 3. RB30 (vl commodore) clutch plate will fit a l/z series ? > > -info from Mark K > > > > 4. Bluebird standard clutch kit part no. R170N for $121 > > > > 5.Bluebird Heavy-duty kit price t.b.a.? > > > > 6. Fairlady clutch kit part no. R171N for $143 > > > > 7. A 4 puck with a combination of 2 organic and 2 ceramic pucks. > > -recommended by Errol ...interesting > > > > Thanks for all those who gave their opinion -some of these were dug out of > > my archives. > > > > Now it's decision time.....hmmm.. > > > > Regards > > Rob P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "FJ MAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:37 PM > > Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B and andrew smith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob how much were you lookin to spend on the clutch. If youre lookin at > > > buyin new and it comes to more than 400 bucks with pressure plate let me > > > know before you buy and you can inspect my clutch as it is similar to > what > > > mark is sayin below (sprung centre for normal drivin with 4 puck for > > better > > > bite). As i said before not tryin to make you buy it, but if youre > lookin > > at > > > spendin a similar amount, it might be worth your while inspecting this > > > clutch (literally havent used it). Andrew Smith, if you know of anyone > > > chasin a custom intercooler, or z18/20 or an fj20 box or a clutch like > the > > > one im sellin feel free to let me know (even the fuel supply if you know > > of > > > anyone doin a efi conversion), > > > regards chris > > > > > > > > > >From: "mark brettle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: Clutch for a 200HP L20B > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:05:54 +1100 > > > > > > > >hi Rob > > > > i use a Standard pressure plate with Sprung centre Ceremic button > > clutch > > > >plate looks like normal clutch plate but with 4 pucks on it you can > drive > > > >the clutch like normal and ride the clutch when you need to but when > you > > > >abuse the clutch it holds i have never had any problems with L20 dyno > > with > > > >153HP at wheels > > > > > > > >hope this helps as i have tried lots of different types of clutches and > > > >this was the only one i found that would hold up to my abuse > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Rob P > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:57 PM > > > > Subject: Clutch for a 200HP L20B > > > > > > > > > > > > Listers, > > > > It is nearly time to put my worked L20B rally motor into the Datsun > > > >1600. > > > > What are my clutch options? My intended use is mainly for rallying > on > > > >sealed roads and motorkhanas but also has to be driveable on the street > > > >occasionally. The twin 45 Webered motor apparently puts out 200 HP > > (150kW) > > > >at the flywheel. The flywheel is aluminium but with a hardened steel > > insert > > > >faceplate wear surface. The gearbox I will use is probably gonna be my > > > >trusty old 240K 5-speed or an untested Stanza SSS box. The clutch that > > came > > > >with the motor was a 3-puck brass button clutch but it is nearly gone > and > > > >I've been told that they are pretty much either on or off with > virtually > > no > > > >slippage (scarey in the wet). > > > > I checked my archives and Mark K says an RB30 VL Commodore clutch > will > > > >fit an L/Z series motor. Is this a heavier duty clutch than your > standard > > > >L20B Bluebird replacement? > > > > > > > > Andrew smith wrote; > > > > I use the clutch factory who are also known as precision > clutch.Mines > > a > > > >240mm > > > > job.It uses a competition brass plate with a 3100lb pressure > plate.Its > > > >not just > > > > a standard type pressure plate with a heavier diaphram it has a > > > >different > > > > fulcrom point and steel plate.The l20 flywheel had to be redrilled > to > > > >suit.It > > > > has stood up pretty well so far.Ive used there old style brass > clutch > > > >with a > > > > heavy diaphram pressure plate and that lasted a couple of weeks.The > > > >daikin > > > > clutch i had lasted less than a week and was sliping in top gear > from > > > >the word > > > > go. > > > > Andrew Smith > > > > > > > > Now I don't want to redrill the flywheel, so will a standard type > > heavy > > > >duty clutch suffice? > > > > Can I get the 3-puck brass button redone? > > > > > > > > Sorry to waffle on but clutch changes are not my favourite job, I > just > > > >want something with some slip that will stand up to some thrashing. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rob P > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > B > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
