Hi Terry,

My car is a 69/70 model, but I also have a 68 and 71 as wrecks. 
Measuring the distance from the bottom of the xmember to control 
arm pivot point on each I got:

69/70 road car with 240K struts: ~3.75cm from bottom of xmember
68 model wreck: ~3.8cm from bottom of xmember
71 model wreck: ~3cm from bottom of xmember

Therefore given the inaccuracies in measuring this, I figured I had 
an 'early' xmember. Do these figures sound right, or is there a 
better/more pertinent meaurement I should take to establish whats 
going on?

Thanks
Andrew

> Andrew,
> 
> At that suspension height, and with 240K struts you would nearly have to
> have a late model xmember, and intermediate has more like 10-12 degrees and
> a pre 69 has ~15-20 degrees. Very small differences in suspension height
> from 310 - 350mm make huge differences in the angles of the control arms, eg
> ~310/315mm ,69 xmember with 240K struts is all but horizontal, and the other
> 2 xmembers are worse still.
> 
> 
> regards
> Terry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of GREENBURY,
> Andrew Robert
> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2003 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: car darting around a bit...
> 
> 
> Hi Errol,
> 
> I checked this over the weekend - actually they are approaching horizontal
> (about 6deg down). This suprises me, because my car isnt all that low
> (350mm wheel centre to guard height), and I believe I have an early
> xmember?!
> 
> Is about 6 degrees down a typical control arm angle with an early xmember
> at my ride height?
> 
> Thanks
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, E Smith wrote:
> 
> > Andrew have you checked the lower control arm angles are not to close to
> > horizontal?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Feral Errol
> > <http://www.datrats.com.au/>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew
> > Greenbury
> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:43 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: car darting around a bit...
> >
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > My car seems to want to wander around a bit and pull to one side
> > or the other on anything but smooth roads. Its especially noticable
> > on roads where grooves in the tarmac have formed under the
> > wheels (eg at traffic lights). It doesnt just pull to the one side all the
> > time, so its not a misalignment in one steering component.
> >
> > The archives note this can be a symptom of shot toe control rod
> > bushes ('donuts'). I did the test described - grabbing the wheel at 9
> > and 3 oclock and there is no noticable movement whatsoever.
> >
> > I have nolathane donut bushes, standard TC rods, 240K struts with
> > the calipers behind the hub, tie rod ends, idler arm etc all replaced.
> >
> > Any ideas what it could be causing the car to want to track with
> > the gradient of the road? Could the TC rods be torqued incorrectly,
> > so the donuts are incorrectly compressed???????
> >
> > Sorry for the long post,
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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