I wonder if they have consulted lawyers about the legality of what they
are doing. I think they would find that they do not own the IP rights to
any tuning that they perform without having the customer specifically
sign a document to that effect. The superiority or inferiority of their
mapping has little to do with the customers right to have a fully
working, and hence fully tunable ECU.

On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 13:09, andrew smith wrote:
> They do it so knowone can use there maps as they believe they are superior
> because they have have been done on an engine dyno.A few of the top level
> tuners do it.
> 
> Zac Campbell wrote:
> 
> > not personally, but I know several people that have allens tuned Autronics
> > and they don't give out the password, not even to the owner of the ECU...
> > make what you will of it, but I wouldn't want an ECU that I couldn't fiddle
> > with or have tuned by somebody else.
> >
> > zac
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: pic
> >
> > > hey  , funny  u mention that,   when i was getting the map changed  at
> > allen
> > > eng, they said  "i `ll put a password on it so .......nothing can get
> > > accidently? changed,........"
> > >
> > >
> > >    have u had a similair experiance zac?
> > >
> > >  mark k
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: pic
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Mark, have Allan Eng put a password on your Autronic ECU?
> > > >
> > > > zac
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 AM
> > > > Subject: pic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > hi, here is the pic of my sr20.
> > > > > its been load to members area.
> > > > >
> > > > > link is:
> > > > >  /usr/home/ozdat/members/uploads/sr20eng.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > i think theres sume stuff thats gotta go before it, so if someone can
> > > fix
> > > > > it up please.............................................
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  mark k
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
-- 
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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