The other reason they might do it is to protect themselves against idiots who think they can tune their own car and will stuff up the programming, then proceed to blow up their engine and throw the blame back on the tuners.
My microtech had problems after it was dyno tuned, need to be a little richer mix a little higher up in the rev / boost range so I did my own fine tuning on the road and it was excellent! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E Smith Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 6:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: pic A lot of "High Profile" Motec and Autronic tuners password in Melbourne as well. I believe it has been the subject of litigation without success by some car owners. They ended up with a crap map, large legal bills and no way to get out of it without a new ECU. The argument goes - that you take your car to a tuning shop to be tuned for maximum performance. They provide the tuning required to do this in the form of an ECU map. "The ECU map they provide is the tuners intellectual property" and so is entitled to protection from being handed out free to other tuners and users of that same engine. I would get an agreement with any tuner that they do not password your ECU, before giving the engine/car to be tuned. In that case the usually refuse and send you away :-) Cheers, Feral Errol Get Serious tm<http://www.datrats.com.au/> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zac Campbell Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pic Yeah I can understand that.. but do you remember Scott that had the SR20 bluebird that allen's fitted the Autronic to? he didn't want to pay for an engine dyno session so they put a map, and a password, on it. the thing could hardly cut 100kw at the wheels yet he couldn't get the map refined on a chassis dyno because Allens would not give him the password! if I paid for a map I'd want to be able to see it too. two schools of thought, I suppose. zac ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: Re: pic > They do it so knowone can use there maps as they believe they are superior > because they have have been done on an engine dyno.A few of the top level > tuners do it. > > Zac Campbell wrote: > > > not personally, but I know several people that have allens tuned Autronics > > and they don't give out the password, not even to the owner of the ECU... > > make what you will of it, but I wouldn't want an ECU that I couldn't fiddle > > with or have tuned by somebody else. > > > > zac > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:27 PM > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > hey , funny u mention that, when i was getting the map changed at > > allen > > > eng, they said "i `ll put a password on it so .......nothing can get > > > accidently? changed,........" > > > > > > > > > have u had a similair experiance zac? > > > > > > mark k > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mark, have Allan Eng put a password on your Autronic ECU? > > > > > > > > zac > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 AM > > > > Subject: pic > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, here is the pic of my sr20. > > > > > its been load to members area. > > > > > > > > > > link is: > > > > > /usr/home/ozdat/members/uploads/sr20eng.jpg > > > > > > > > > > i think theres sume stuff thats gotta go before it, so if someone can > > > fix > > > > > it up please............................................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
