Rob Wow They would hate my car then. HAHAHA Actually, so long as there are no joins in the fuel line INSIDE the cabin it is quite legal and quite safe. In fact for rally car it should be safer ie less chance of snagging the fuel lines on tree stumps and the like. I guess the real issue I wanted to raise was having a fuel regulator to keep the pressure OFF the needle and seats in the webers. A while ago a mate of mine with a similar set up to mine but no fuel reg and leaky needle and seats, parked on the side of the road with the left side of the car up on the footpath. The weakened and leaky needle and seats in the webers allowed fuel to pour into the cylinders while the car was parked. Sure enough when he came back to start it the cylinders were full of fuel and he bent 2 rods and ruined a really good engine. There's a lesson there somewhere based on my mates expenses... hehe Cheers Mick
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Re: electric fuel pumps and downdraft Weber > Yeah thanks Mick, that setup is exactly what I've got in an ex-racing 510 > shell > I used to drive around a few years ago. Unfortunately that car was given a > defect notice, as here in WA running fuel lines inside a street car is not > allowed (or so the cops told me). That was just one of the reasons I had to > take that car off the road, the guy at the pits didn't take too kindly to > the alloy roll cage (CAMS approved and logbooked) either, or the lack of > carpets, rear seat, battery in boot, missing wheel well or the hydraulic > handbrake etc. I think I was done over a bit harshly because there was a bit > of a campaign against old cars on the road at the time. > The new shell I'm working on is a '72 and I'll be trying to keep it road > licensed so I can use it in historic tarmac rallies and autokhanas. > I will run the bigger lines as you and Errol have suggested but I'll run > them outside the car to save any hassle later. I guess I'll have to hire/get > some kind of tube bending die thingy for the job. > Thanks for the advice guys. > > Rob P > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: electric fuel pumps and downdraft Weber > > > > Rob > > I agree with everything said so far. > > My worked L20B in a 510, with twin 45's has 2 shitty old low pressure fuel > > pumps in the boot and I run 3/8" Bundy thru the cabin up the passengers > side > > of the transmission tunnel, then up the firewall and across to the far > left > > so that it exits into the engine bay below the shelf just below the wiper > > motor. > > The steel pipe finishes here and i've got a small length of rubber hose > then > > a right angle fuel filter tucked under the strut gusset then a short > rubber > > hose runs back to a fuel regulator (set at 2.5) which just rests on that > > shelf under the wiper motor. From the regulator to the rearmost Weber is > > just another short piece of rubber fuel hose. Man I wish I had a digital > > camera!!!!! If u want more info just email me offlist. > > It looks neater than it sounds. > > You do need min 3/8" Bundy. > > You do need a fuel regulator for webers. Thats why Errol is so right about > > using the bluey pump. But I didn't know a bluey pump could handle that > much > > HP. hmmm Fuel regs are about $100. I've thrown out bluey pumps! Doh!! > > Hope this helps > > Cheers > > Mick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:36 PM > > Subject: RE: electric fuel pumps and downdraft Weber > > > > > > > Run at least 3/8" lines from the tank all the way forward. 10 mm or 1/2" > > > preferred. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Feral Errol > > > Get Serious tm<http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob P > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:07 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: electric fuel pumps and downdraft Weber > > > > > > > > > Thanks Errol, > > > So what diameter lines do I need? You mean from fuel tank to motor AND > > > return line? > > > Currently the 510 shell I'm working on has no return line. Bundy tubing > > OK? > > > > > > Rob P > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:50 AM > > > Subject: RE: electric fuel pumps and downdraft Weber > > > > > > > > > > Rob. > > > > The bluey pump will do up to 200 hp output with big lines. > > > > > > > > Vl turbo pumps are high pressure (45 psi) you need 2.5 Psi. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Feral Errol > > > > Get Serious tm<http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob P > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:02 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: electric fuel pumps and downdraft weber > > > > > > > > > > > > What about a wild L20B with twin 45s? Is the BBird pump enough or do I > > > need > > > > a VL turbo fuel pump, with or without a fuel regulator? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rob P > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kristian Walsham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:53 AM > > > > Subject: Re: electric fuel pumps and downdraft weber > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > If you run a S2 BB electric pump you don`t need a > > > regulator. > > > > > The pressure isn`t high, it just flows more. > > > > > Aftermarket pumps maybe another story, so you will have find out > what > > > > > pressure they run at. > > > > > I have this pump on my car now still with the 32/36 and it doesn`t > run > > > out > > > > > of fuel. > > > > > > > > > > Kris. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:37 AM > > > > > Subject: electric fuel pumps and downdraft weber > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand electric fuel pumps such as the bluebird one should > be > > > > > > used with a regulator if running a downdraft weber because they > > supply > > > > > > too much pressure. My 32/36 downdraft runs a fuel return so would > > > > > > this make the use of a regulator redundant? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
