Listen, I can whine about whatever I want all day long, and there's nothing you can do about it! :-)
I understand that our animal sense of fairness (note that I did not say human sense of fairness) imposes on the universe a sense of right and wrong or need for justice, and I also understand that having a "sense of fairness" in no way implies that such a phenomenon exists outside of the being which presumes it. Liz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ornamentalmind Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:23 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked? 'fair'?...when it comes to reality??? On Jan 14, 7:20 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > That's hardly fair. > > Liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > ornamentalmind > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:16 PM > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked? > > For the record, (and using purely anecdotal evidence) I have NEVER had > a flu shot...and I'm an old fart!....and don't get the flu. > > On Jan 14, 8:18 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you ever get sick? No, probably not, you are too ornery to get sick! > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi y'all - my advice would be to sit back and watch everyone else take > > > the shots and follow my lead to avoid doctors for the whole of your > > > existance on this planet. > > > > On Jan 14, 10:08 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hm. You can look at it this way. A Doctor's business name is usually > a > > > > medical "practice" right? We are continually being practiced on and > > > > constantly producing statistics for study everytime you walk into an > > > > office. Don't know how or if that information is ever used for > research, > > > > but I think it would make sense if it were released after stripped of > > > > person's name, etc. Why not? Would it be wrong to ask the medical > > > > profession to pool this kind of knowledge for researchers, or is it > > > already > > > > being done? > > > > > Rhiannon is due for her shots and we will go when the time comes. > It's > > > > going to stink cause she is going to freak and never going to want to > go > > > > back..she doesnt remember the first round. > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > Something similar to that is how these studies are almost always > done, > > > > > that is, correlational studies. The researchers never (almost never > > > > > anyway) systematically manipulate variables to watch/measure the > > > > > detrimental effects on the people. Instead, the researchers watch > > > > > those events happen naturally in the environment or culture and then > > > > > use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships. > > > > > > On Jan 14, 9:13 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I was suggesting a demographic atatisical study. There are years > > > where > > > > > > little or no vaccinations were given years where many vaccinations > > > > > > were given. Within those years when many vaccinations were given > > > there > > > > > > are individuals who didn't have their children vaccinated and > > > possible > > > > > > some who used a modified vaacination schedule (maybe even enough > of > > > > > > these to see some correlation). There are also populations in > other > > > > > > nations that have a different vaccination schedule than the USA. > All > > > > > > in all it is likley that some correlation can be found. Of course > > > when > > > > > > you are looking at other nations you are to some degree comparing > > > > > > apples and oranges. However, at the end of the day it is likley > that > > > > > > better suggestions can be made as well as allowing people to make > up > > > > > > their own minds, which they are allowed to do now in the USA. > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 8:51 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > See, that's why you DON'T TELL the parents that it will be > > > dangerous. > > > > > And > > > > > > > you make sure to choose only stupid and/or ugly children to > > > > > participate. > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > (Memphis) > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:45 AM > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been > > > > > debunked? > > > > > > > > good luck with getting parents to volunteer their kids for that > > > study > > > > > > > especially a schedule that is likely to handicap their child. > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 8:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "...At the very least studies need to be done, by an > independent > > > > > > > > group, to determine if the vaccination schedule should be > > > > > > > > modified. ..." Ish > > > > > > > > > Rhetorical question: Who is going to pay for this 'independent > > > > > group's > > > > > > > > study? > > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:59 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to > be > > > > > > > > > administered in such a short time to very young babies. It > > > seems to > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest > spread > > > out > > > > > > > > > more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money > on > > > this. > > > > > > > > > What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the > very > > > > > least > > > > > > > > > studies need to be done, by an independent group, to > determine > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be > good > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any, > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics > is > > > not > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a small > > > > > > > > > consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that > they > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong > choice > > > for > > > > > > > > > their very real flesh and blood child. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for > and > > > > > achieved > > > > > > > > > > bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to > sue > > > > > them for > > > > > > > > > > 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the > > > companies. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's > mom > > > > > craved > > > > > > > > > > > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies. They had to > > > watch > > > > > her > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > time or she would sneak the stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf > > > > > Of > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > (Memphis) > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in > vaccines > > > > > been > > > > > > > debunked? > > > > > > > > > > > > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant. > you > > > may > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and > possibly > > > > > damage the > > > > > > > > > > > fetus. those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't > > > actually > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury, > high > > > > > levels of > > > > > > > > > > > radiation, etc. there may be a reason why most women > > > naturally > > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > > > > > > hot spicy food while pregnant. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > those harmless looking little peppers.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the > spicy > > > > > because > > > > > > > most of us > > > > > > > > > > > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are > > > preggers > > > > > at one > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't > see > > > many > > > > > > > gobbling > > > > > > > > > > > > habaneros:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angle? That is an interesting way of looking at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle. > > > Will > > > > > mention > > > > > > > it to > > > > > > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. She stay away from mercury, lead, high > levels > > > of > > > > > > > radiation and > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or > > > unnatural) > > > > > while > > > > > > > she is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming. > Flushing > > > a > > > > > > > forming > > > > > > > > > > > fetus's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals > and/or > > > > > > > unnaturally high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > levels of natural neurological agents is > probably > > > not a > > > > > good > > > > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not want to completely discourage > it > > > > > because I > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good money to work with women who've destroyed > or > > > > > deformed > > > > > > > fetus' > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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