*** chuckles...'maybe' :D ***
On Jan 15, 7:01 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Orn, I've never had a flu shot either....maybe we are related?
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM, ornamentalmind
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > For the record, (and using purely anecdotal evidence) I have NEVER had
> > a flu shot...and I'm an old fart!....and don't get the flu.
>
> > On Jan 14, 8:18 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Do you ever get sick? No, probably not, you are too ornery to get sick!
>
> > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Clogtowner <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi y'all - my advice would be to sit back and watch everyone else take
> > > > the shots and follow my lead to avoid doctors for the whole of your
> > > > existance on this planet.
>
> > > > On Jan 14, 10:08 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hm. You can look at it this way. A Doctor's business name is
> > usually a
> > > > > medical "practice" right? We are continually being practiced on and
> > > > > constantly producing statistics for study everytime you walk into an
> > > > > office. Don't know how or if that information is ever used for
> > research,
> > > > > but I think it would make sense if it were released after stripped of
> > > > > person's name, etc. Why not? Would it be wrong to ask the medical
> > > > > profession to pool this kind of knowledge for researchers, or is it
> > > > already
> > > > > being done?
>
> > > > > Rhiannon is due for her shots and we will go when the time comes.
> > It's
> > > > > going to stink cause she is going to freak and never going to want to
> > go
> > > > > back..she doesnt remember the first round.
>
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Something similar to that is how these studies are almost always
> > done,
> > > > > > that is, correlational studies. The researchers never (almost never
> > > > > > anyway) systematically manipulate variables to watch/measure the
> > > > > > detrimental effects on the people. Instead, the researchers watch
> > > > > > those events happen naturally in the environment or culture and
> > then
> > > > > > use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 14, 9:13 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I was suggesting a demographic atatisical study. There are years
> > > > where
> > > > > > > little or no vaccinations were given years where many
> > vaccinations
> > > > > > > were given. Within those years when many vaccinations were given
> > > > there
> > > > > > > are individuals who didn't have their children vaccinated and
> > > > possible
> > > > > > > some who used a modified vaacination schedule (maybe even enough
> > of
> > > > > > > these to see some correlation). There are also populations in
> > other
> > > > > > > nations that have a different vaccination schedule than the USA.
> > All
> > > > > > > in all it is likley that some correlation can be found. Of course
> > > > when
> > > > > > > you are looking at other nations you are to some degree comparing
> > > > > > > apples and oranges. However, at the end of the day it is likley
> > that
> > > > > > > better suggestions can be made as well as allowing people to make
> > up
> > > > > > > their own minds, which they are allowed to do now in the USA.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 14, 8:51 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > See, that's why you DON'T TELL the parents that it will be
> > > > dangerous.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > you make sure to choose only stupid and/or ugly children to
> > > > > > participate.
>
> > > > > > > > Liz
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > > (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:45 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines
> > been
> > > > > > debunked?
>
> > > > > > > > good luck with getting parents to volunteer their kids for that
> > > > study
> > > > > > > > especially a schedule that is likely to handicap their child.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 8:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "...At the very least studies need to be done, by an
> > independent
> > > > > > > > > group, to determine if the vaccination schedule should be
> > > > > > > > > modified. ..." Ish
>
> > > > > > > > > Rhetorical question: Who is going to pay for this
> > 'independent
> > > > > > group's
> > > > > > > > > study?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:59 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to
> > be
> > > > > > > > > > administered in such a short time to very young babies. It
> > > > seems to
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest
> > spread
> > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money
> > on
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > > > What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the
> > very
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > studies need to be done, by an independent group, to
> > determine
> > > > if
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be
> > good
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any,
> > > > might
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a
> > small
> > > > > > > > > > consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that
> > they
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong
> > choice
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > their very real flesh and blood child.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for
> > and
> > > > > > achieved
> > > > > > > > > > > bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to
> > sue
> > > > > > them for
> > > > > > > > > > > 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the
> > > > companies.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's
> > mom
> > > > > > craved
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies. They had
> > to
> > > > watch
> > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > all the
> > > > > > > > > > > > time or she would sneak the stuff.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > liz
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > > > > > > (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in
> > vaccines
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > debunked?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant.
> > you
> > > > may
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and
> > possibly
> > > > > > damage the
> > > > > > > > > > > > fetus. those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't
> > > > actually
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury,
> > high
> > > > > > levels of
> > > > > > > > > > > > radiation, etc. there may be a reason why most women
> > > > naturally
> > > > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > hot spicy food while pregnant.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those harmless looking little peppers....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the
> > spicy
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > most of us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are
> > > > preggers
> > > > > > at one
> > > > > > > > point
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't
> > see
> > > > many
> > > > > > > > gobbling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > habaneros:)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angle? That is an interesting way of looking at
> > it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle.
> > > > Will
> > > > > > mention
> > > > > > > > it to
> > > > > > > > > > > > her.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. She stay away from mercury, lead, high
> > levels
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > radiation and
> > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or
> > > > unnatural)
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > she is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming.
> > Flushing
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > forming
> > > > > > > > > > > > fetus's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals
> > and/or
> > > > > > > > unnaturally high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > levels
>
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