It certainly makes me sick.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason (Memphis) Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:38 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme? Too much happiness is an illness. :) On Jan 23, 3:21 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, you had me until the end. I take it that you have never suffered from > severe clinical depression. Suicide is not usually a well thought out > course for a person who has calmly and objectively considered his or her > options. > > There is unhappiness, shame, anger, frustration, grief, sadness, loneliness, > and a whole spectrum of non happiness that should be recognized as natural > states of being, I agree. There is no reason to suppose that humans are > "supposed" to be happy, but again, clinical depression is an illness. The > world is not seen realistically through the lens of depression, and I'm glad > that I had enough mind left in my depressive psychosis to seek intervention, > or else I might not be here today. > > But, again, I agree with you that happiness is over rated. I am sometimes > at my most creative when I have a good dose of angst. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason > (Memphis) > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:03 PM > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme? > > What is wrong with suicide? If a person wants to take his or her own > life, that is his or her perogative. That is one less loser (not > necessarily though) you have to worry about. > > People can be optimistic. That is their freedom. However, don't get > upset or think something is wrong with people who are pessimistic. > Again, my original point: if you are pessimistic in this American > society, people think that you should change or that something is > wrong with you. If you are depressed, people around you think that > you are not content with your disabiling misery. There is so much > pressure to be happy. If I want to sleep all day and comtemplate > suicide while I am awake, what gives you the right to stop me or to > claim that is wrong? > > On Jan 23, 10:35 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > Aren't Delusional and Optimistic two different things? Why couldnt you > say > > this country is too collectively delusional in parts (rapture etc) but > don't > > give optimism a totally naive pollyanna bent...it does not have to be. A > > suicidal person has to have an optimist just beneath the skin to live > > another day:) > > > Unfortunate that we don't celebrate reality even in our "reality tv". Are > > you saying it is best to be panglossianly pessimistic so we are not > > dissapointed with reality when it smacks into us a 200mph? "pessimism of > the > > intellect, optimism of the will?" > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jason (Memphis) > <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > This country is way to optimistic. Unfortunately, pessimism is not > > > celebrated in this country. > > > > On Jan 23, 9:50 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Why such an absolute NO? I'm watching the Nancy Grace style talking > heads > > > > and it is startling and viscerally wrenching how negative she really > is > > > (bet > > > > you can find a meme or two in her hour of power) and you get pissed > just > > > > watching her...I want to soak her head in clorox. NO, I am not saying > we > > > > are not in deepest Kimchee and should pretend otherwise...I think it > > > takes > > > > some serious creativity and guts to see anything good in this current > > > dung > > > > heap. Just keep listening to all the conversations around...so much > of > > > them > > > > are snippets of negativity. Have we always been this way or is this > that > > > > era? > > > > > I know why people want to believe in Obama. This nation is deeply > > > > embarrassed, wholly pissed, and ultimately disillusioned with our > > > > politicians. WE want a hero, or at worst, someone competent. Can you > > > imagine > > > > how Obama feels having all of us believing in him? Not vain or power > > > drunk > > > > maybe, but scared shitless? Motivated! His whole family is on the > altar > > > and > > > > he gets the very real chance to be superdad! IF he can deliver bit > by > > > bit, > > > > this could be revolution! National, personal, just a tiny bit global! > > > > > I'm just sick of shitslinging! I've got a bucket, rag, and smile! > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > No > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:51 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Is negativity a habit? mindset? a dark set of glasses? We seem > to > > > > > enjoy > > > > > > rolling in it and belittling the positive...Oh right, we are up to > > > our > > > > > necks > > > > > > in kimchee. But, how can you find the bright side unless you are > > > looking > > > > > > for it? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > gnothe se auton > > > > > -- > > > > gnothe se auton > > > -- > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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