Give me something of substance to disagree with. :-) liz
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason (Memphis) Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:39 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme? What? You are not supposed agree with me! You are supposed to argue! Damn it! On Jan 23, 8:29 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason > (Memphis) > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:41 PM > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme? > > Too much happiness is an illness and the world is not seen > realistically through the lens of clinical happiness, which is > sometimes medication/drug induced. > > On Jan 23, 3:37 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Too much happiness is an illness. :) > > > On Jan 23, 3:21 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well, you had me until the end. I take it that you have never suffered > from > > > severe clinical depression. Suicide is not usually a well thought out > > > course for a person who has calmly and objectively considered his or her > > > options. > > > > There is unhappiness, shame, anger, frustration, grief, sadness, > loneliness, > > > and a whole spectrum of non happiness that should be recognized as > natural > > > states of being, I agree. There is no reason to suppose that humans are > > > "supposed" to be happy, but again, clinical depression is an illness. > The > > > world is not seen realistically through the lens of depression, and I'm > glad > > > that I had enough mind left in my depressive psychosis to seek > intervention, > > > or else I might not be here today. > > > > But, again, I agree with you that happiness is over rated. I am > sometimes > > > at my most creative when I have a good dose of angst. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason > > > (Memphis) > > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:03 PM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme? > > > > What is wrong with suicide? If a person wants to take his or her own > > > life, that is his or her perogative. That is one less loser (not > > > necessarily though) you have to worry about. > > > > People can be optimistic. That is their freedom. However, don't get > > > upset or think something is wrong with people who are pessimistic. > > > Again, my original point: if you are pessimistic in this American > > > society, people think that you should change or that something is > > > wrong with you. If you are depressed, people around you think that > > > you are not content with your disabiling misery. There is so much > > > pressure to be happy. If I want to sleep all day and comtemplate > > > suicide while I am awake, what gives you the right to stop me or to > > > claim that is wrong? > > > > On Jan 23, 10:35 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Aren't Delusional and Optimistic two different things? Why couldnt > you > > > say > > > > this country is too collectively delusional in parts (rapture etc) but > > > don't > > > > give optimism a totally naive pollyanna bent...it does not have to be. > A > > > > suicidal person has to have an optimist just beneath the skin to live > > > > another day:) > > > > > Unfortunate that we don't celebrate reality even in our "reality tv". > Are > > > > you saying it is best to be panglossianly pessimistic so we are not > > > > dissapointed with reality when it smacks into us a 200mph? "pessimism > of > > > the > > > > intellect, optimism of the will?" > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jason (Memphis) > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > This country is way to optimistic. Unfortunately, pessimism is not > > > > > celebrated in this country. > > > > > > On Jan 23, 9:50 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Why such an absolute NO? I'm watching the Nancy Grace style > talking > > > heads > > > > > > and it is startling and viscerally wrenching how negative she > really > > > is > > > > > (bet > > > > > > you can find a meme or two in her hour of power) and you get > pissed > > > just > > > > > > watching her...I want to soak her head in clorox. NO, I am not > saying > > > we > > > > > > are not in deepest Kimchee and should pretend otherwise...I think > it > > > > > takes > > > > > > some serious creativity and guts to see anything good in this > current > > > > > dung > > > > > > heap. Just keep listening to all the conversations around...so > much > > > of > > > > > them > > > > > > are snippets of negativity. Have we always been this way or is > this > > > that > > > > > > era? > > > > > > > I know why people want to believe in Obama. This nation is deeply > > > > > > embarrassed, wholly pissed, and ultimately disillusioned with our > > > > > > politicians. WE want a hero, or at worst, someone competent. Can > you > > > > > imagine > > > > > > how Obama feels having all of us believing in him? Not vain or > power > > > > > drunk > > > > > > maybe, but scared shitless? Motivated! His whole family is on the > > > altar > > > > > and > > > > > > he gets the very real chance to be superdad! IF he can deliver > bit > > > by > > > > > bit, > > > > > > this could be revolution! National, personal, just a tiny bit > global! > > > > > > > I'm just sick of shitslinging! I've got a bucket, rag, and smile! > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:51 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Is negativity a habit? mindset? a dark set of glasses? We > seem > > > to > > > > > > > enjoy > > > > > > > > rolling in it and belittling the positive...Oh right, we are > up to > > > > > our > > > > > > > necks > > > > > > > > in kimchee. But, how can you find the bright side unless you > are > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > for it? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > gnothe se auton > > > > > -- > > > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
