Hi Ahsan

Thanks for the tip, I will check ROXML out.

Regards

Erik


On 30 Okt, 17:25, "Ahsan Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today, I learnt that ROXML 2.0 now uses libxml (earlier versions used REXML)
> - hurrah ! Roxml is a kick-ass library that maps Ruby Objects to XML
> Elements :)
>
> http://ben.woosley.name/log/?p=45
>
> Thought I'd share that with you.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> highandwild / Ahsan Ali
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the tips. WSF/Ruby sounds interesting indeed.
>
> > And also thanks to Yehuda, this is exactly what I hoped to hear. Of
> > course Merb is agnostic in its nature but an awareness and ambition
> > towards certain packages and libs from you and other core Merb
> > developers will influence the community as a whole. So it is good news
> > that SOA and WS-* is on your wishlist as well.
>
> > I see the SOA node role as one potential way for Merb to enter the world
> > of existing enterprise solutions out there. With SOA one can easily
> > substitute a Java powered node with Merb when a large refactorization is
> > due or when a new node is introduced. This is a lot easier for managment
> > to swallow than redeveloping an entire platform in Merb.
>
> > /Erik
>
> > Yehuda Katz skrev:
> > > WSF/Ruby looks really interesting, except that the setup is draconian.
> > > I'm going to contact them to see about making it possible to install
> > > via rubygems.
>
> > > -- Yehuda
>
> > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Ahsan Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> > >     Hi,
>
> > >     Speaking of libraries,http://wso2.org/projects/wsf/ruby/looks/
> > >     like a pretty good alternative to SOAP4r. I haven't tried it
> > >     myself though ...
>
> > >     "WSO2 WSF/Ruby is a complete solution for building and deploying
> > >     Web services, and is the only Ruby extension with the widest range
> > >     of WS-* specification implementations. Key features include,
> > >     secure services and clients with WS-Security support, binary
> > >     attachments with MTOM, works with Ruby on Rails and
> > >     interoperability with .NET and J2EE."
>
> > >     Now I'm trying to recall why I chose soap4r - was it the facility
> > >     to generate ruby stubs/skeletons from a WSDL (wsdl2ruby) ? It
> > >     looks like WSO2 also has something similar in the works.
>
> > >     Best Regards,
>
> > >     Ahsan Ali
>
> > >     On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> > >         Hi
>
> > >         My intention was to do both. Since I am designing Merb-based
> > >         nodes in a
> > >         SOA each node needs to be able to produce as well as consume
> > >         SOAP messages.
>
> > >         I read in the pickaxe that Action Web Service does not support
> > >         document/literal SOAP messages, which is the de facto standard
> > >         in the
> > >         WS-I guidelines. I am not sure whether this is a restriction
> > >         in AWS or
> > >         in SOAP4R (or if AWS even uses SOAP4R). I guess a SOAP lib
> > >         that is based
> > >         on libxml-ruby would be preferable for performance reasons and
> > XML
> > >         Schema usage.
>
> > >         I realize that maybe this specific question is more
> > >         appropriate for a
> > >         SOAP4R list or a general WS list, but I think the subject as a
> > >         whole is
> > >         a valid Merb issue.
>
> > >         I love RESTful development and the lightweight approach to web
> > >         services,
> > >         but in a legacy environment SOAP cannot be ignored. And in an
> > >         enterprise
> > >         environment, things like standardized policy enforcement,
> > >         intermediate
> > >         nodes and so on really rely on SOAP-based techniques. There is
> > >         a lot of
> > >         talk these days on whether Merb and other Ruby frameworks
> > >         (guess which
> > >         one :-) are ready for enterprise adoption and, in my opinion,
> > >         in many
> > >         areas they are. But with the upcoming second generation web
> > >         services
> > >         (WS-Security, XML Encryption, WS-Policy and so on) the Ruby
> > >         SOAP libs
> > >         are lagging far behind.
>
> > >         And again, this is not a Merb-specific issue, since Merb can
> > >         use any lib
> > >         you want. But for me, and I think for a few other people as
> > >         well, it
> > >         would be a lot easier to argue the use of Merb if there existed
> > an
> > >         active and up-to-date SOAP-lib that was mentioned in the Merb
> > >         pages and
> > >         supported in the same way as e.g. DataMapper. Managers rarely
> > >         go for the
> > >         "but you can use anything" argument :-) So if anyone have done
> > >         some work
> > >         with Merb/SOAP/SOA/WS-* I would be very happy to hear about your
> > >         experiences of it. Or maybe running Merb on JRuby using Java
> > >         libs for
> > >         SOAP integration. That would really be a strong selling point
> > >         to my
> > >         bosses :-)
>
> > >         Kindest regards
>
> > >         Erik
>
> > >         Per Melin skrev:
> > >         > 2008/10/17 Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED]>>:
>
> > >         >> I would like to do the refactorization using Merb+DM but the
> > >         >> potential lack of SOAP support might be a showstopper.
>
> > >         > Are we talking about servicing SOAP requests with Merb, or
> > >         using DM to
> > >         > collect data from SOAP services?
>
> > > --
> > > Yehuda Katz
> > > Developer | Engine Yard
> > > (ph) 718.877.1325
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