Hi,

Today, I learnt that ROXML 2.0 now uses libxml (earlier versions used REXML)
- hurrah ! Roxml is a kick-ass library that maps Ruby Objects to XML
Elements :)

http://ben.woosley.name/log/?p=45

Thought I'd share that with you.

Best Regards,

highandwild / Ahsan Ali

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the tips. WSF/Ruby sounds interesting indeed.
>
> And also thanks to Yehuda, this is exactly what I hoped to hear. Of
> course Merb is agnostic in its nature but an awareness and ambition
> towards certain packages and libs from you and other core Merb
> developers will influence the community as a whole. So it is good news
> that SOA and WS-* is on your wishlist as well.
>
> I see the SOA node role as one potential way for Merb to enter the world
> of existing enterprise solutions out there. With SOA one can easily
> substitute a Java powered node with Merb when a large refactorization is
> due or when a new node is introduced. This is a lot easier for managment
> to swallow than redeveloping an entire platform in Merb.
>
> /Erik
>
> Yehuda Katz skrev:
> > WSF/Ruby looks really interesting, except that the setup is draconian.
> > I'm going to contact them to see about making it possible to install
> > via rubygems.
> >
> > -- Yehuda
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Ahsan Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     Speaking of libraries, http://wso2.org/projects/wsf/ruby /looks/
> >     like a pretty good alternative to SOAP4r. I haven't tried it
> >     myself though ...
> >
> >     "WSO2 WSF/Ruby is a complete solution for building and deploying
> >     Web services, and is the only Ruby extension with the widest range
> >     of WS-* specification implementations. Key features include,
> >     secure services and clients with WS-Security support, binary
> >     attachments with MTOM, works with Ruby on Rails and
> >     interoperability with .NET and J2EE."
> >
> >     Now I'm trying to recall why I chose soap4r - was it the facility
> >     to generate ruby stubs/skeletons from a WSDL (wsdl2ruby) ? It
> >     looks like WSO2 also has something similar in the works.
> >
> >     Best Regards,
> >
> >     Ahsan Ali
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >         Hi
> >
> >         My intention was to do both. Since I am designing Merb-based
> >         nodes in a
> >         SOA each node needs to be able to produce as well as consume
> >         SOAP messages.
> >
> >         I read in the pickaxe that Action Web Service does not support
> >         document/literal SOAP messages, which is the de facto standard
> >         in the
> >         WS-I guidelines. I am not sure whether this is a restriction
> >         in AWS or
> >         in SOAP4R (or if AWS even uses SOAP4R). I guess a SOAP lib
> >         that is based
> >         on libxml-ruby would be preferable for performance reasons and
> XML
> >         Schema usage.
> >
> >         I realize that maybe this specific question is more
> >         appropriate for a
> >         SOAP4R list or a general WS list, but I think the subject as a
> >         whole is
> >         a valid Merb issue.
> >
> >         I love RESTful development and the lightweight approach to web
> >         services,
> >         but in a legacy environment SOAP cannot be ignored. And in an
> >         enterprise
> >         environment, things like standardized policy enforcement,
> >         intermediate
> >         nodes and so on really rely on SOAP-based techniques. There is
> >         a lot of
> >         talk these days on whether Merb and other Ruby frameworks
> >         (guess which
> >         one :-) are ready for enterprise adoption and, in my opinion,
> >         in many
> >         areas they are. But with the upcoming second generation web
> >         services
> >         (WS-Security, XML Encryption, WS-Policy and so on) the Ruby
> >         SOAP libs
> >         are lagging far behind.
> >
> >         And again, this is not a Merb-specific issue, since Merb can
> >         use any lib
> >         you want. But for me, and I think for a few other people as
> >         well, it
> >         would be a lot easier to argue the use of Merb if there existed
> an
> >         active and up-to-date SOAP-lib that was mentioned in the Merb
> >         pages and
> >         supported in the same way as e.g. DataMapper. Managers rarely
> >         go for the
> >         "but you can use anything" argument :-) So if anyone have done
> >         some work
> >         with Merb/SOAP/SOA/WS-* I would be very happy to hear about your
> >         experiences of it. Or maybe running Merb on JRuby using Java
> >         libs for
> >         SOAP integration. That would really be a strong selling point
> >         to my
> >         bosses :-)
> >
> >         Kindest regards
> >
> >         Erik
> >
> >
> >         Per Melin skrev:
> >         > 2008/10/17 Erik Lindblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>>:
> >         >
> >         >> I would like to do the refactorization using Merb+DM but the
> >         >> potential lack of SOAP support might be a showstopper.
> >         >>
> >         >
> >         > Are we talking about servicing SOAP requests with Merb, or
> >         using DM to
> >         > collect data from SOAP services?
> >         >
> >         > >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yehuda Katz
> > Developer | Engine Yard
> > (ph) 718.877.1325
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>

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