On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, DAddYE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Are you aware that Rails 3.0 supersedes Merb. > > If you want less options go with Rails. > > You are convinced about that? So in your opinion Rails has less > fatures than merb? That's incredible...
no... merb is flexible, rails is rigid in that there is a golden path. Moving off it, is possible, however doing that in rails has more to think about than merb. The goal of rails 3.0, as I understand it, is to provide the golden path at the same time be whole lot simpler to make ones own golden path. > > If you want tiny go with Sinatra or merb-gen very-flat > > Where I say that? I say only: more concise, more stable, more tiny. > > > Pick the tool for the job - Merb works great as is. > > Has a lot of functionality and flexibility. > > Merb can be molded and manipulated to do what you want to do. > > Tell me, how many webapps do you build with them can you show me some > links? http://www.1300calculators.com.au is built on MagnitudeCMS.com - which is what I'm using to build all content "type" websites going forward. This week / next week I'm moving http://www.pdfa.com.au to MCMS. MCMS is my version of Joomla built on Merb / CouchDB. I've built an insurance quoting tool with merb (couchdb/mysql) that is in production, it is back office tool (as such not something I can share with the net at large). The calculator on the 1300calculator sites above has a merb version (the one on that site is backed by sinatra) that 45 brokers use daily to generate car finance quotes. > > I refuse to use Merb via gem install merb as you get a crap load of gems (as > > you have pointed out) and so use the bundler :) > > Do you use some thing in a production env? I don't mean ONE "site" on > a vps, but think people like me that for each server host some like > 150+ sites... I can bundle gems in a vendor dir? So in future if there > is a "security problem in merb" I need to edit 150+ projects and then > git push it on the server... we are crazy? Yeah that would be pretty crazy. At the same time, if a feature comes into merb that breaks every single one of your 150+ apps do you want your current app that is being developed to not be able to take advantage of this new feature? It's all about pros/cons and choosing a path that fits your goals / needs. For me, bundler equlas my app works regardless of the system gems. In fact I've made my production environment ruby 1.8.7 + rubygems 1.3.5 + bundler + rake - everything else needs to be inside the app dir. I'm not a hosting provider (Engine Yard Solo / Heroku), ZN either looks after everything or the client looks after everything (including hosting/running). Hence why I'm bothering with MCMS, setting up a Joomla site once is great, doing it 20+ times is a real damn pain in the ass! > I want (if possible) that all of us can take a GLOBAL view, don't see > only your reality but think to: > > - Newbie people > - Big society > - You Well at the end of the day each person figures out what is best for themselves, if they have a need to service 1000s of clients / apps and want to manage an infrastructure efficiently, they'll figure out a way and hopefully share their experience. For me my goals are pretty specific - build content websites that run on MCMS so I have minimum moving parts. I neither have the time nor the skills required to build Basecamp/Highrise/GitHub type applications on my own... I was a newbie to rails, then I found merb (0.6) and got off and running, now I get ruby, and switch between sintra & merb. I'm self taught, the only thing I had going for me when I hit ruby was a foundation in OO via Java. >From what I can tell you're looking for a way to manage 150+ apps that are built on merb - imo that task is just plain "not" simple... Maybe merb isn't the tool for you? Maybe it is and you're in a unique situation to be able to figure it out and provide patches to allow merb to thrive in such a situation. > Then, about the dead of merb, I talked with some member of the current > team of merb and I don't think It will die. I don't think merb will die either. it has its place and use. Nick --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "merb" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/merb?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
