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I prefer a team that work on merb-slices, merb-action-args, merb-auth, merb-param-protections, or you prefer a team that focus on the core (including helpers assets mailer etc...) ? Also, you prefer a builtin I18n or prefer a merb-auth? Also, you prefer a slice or a complete multiapp? In your case you "love" mcms right? With my example you can have in your path some like: /mymcs/core /mymcs/hirepurchasecalculator /mymcs/platinumdirectfinanceaustralia /mymcs/autotest /mymcs/config /mymcs/gems > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, DAddYE <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> Are you aware that Rails 3.0 supersedes Merb. >>> If you want less options go with Rails. >> >> You are convinced about that? So in your opinion Rails has less >> fatures than merb? That's incredible... > > no... merb is flexible, rails is rigid in that there is a golden path. > Moving off it, is possible, however doing that in rails has more to > think about than merb. The goal of rails 3.0, as I understand it, is > to provide the golden path at the same time be whole lot simpler to > make ones own golden path. > >>> If you want tiny go with Sinatra or merb-gen very-flat >> >> Where I say that? I say only: more concise, more stable, more tiny. >> >>> Pick the tool for the job - Merb works great as is. >>> Has a lot of functionality and flexibility. >>> Merb can be molded and manipulated to do what you want to do. >> >> Tell me, how many webapps do you build with them can you show me some >> links? > > http://www.1300calculators.com.au is built on MagnitudeCMS.com - which > is what I'm using to build all content "type" websites going forward. > This week / next week I'm moving http://www.pdfa.com.au to MCMS. MCMS > is my version of Joomla built on Merb / CouchDB. > > I've built an insurance quoting tool with merb (couchdb/mysql) that is > in production, it is back office tool (as such not something I can > share with the net at large). > The calculator on the 1300calculator sites above has a merb version > (the one on that site is backed by sinatra) that 45 brokers use daily > to generate car finance quotes. > >>> I refuse to use Merb via gem install merb as you get a crap load >>> of gems (as >>> you have pointed out) and so use the bundler :) >> >> Do you use some thing in a production env? I don't mean ONE "site" on >> a vps, but think people like me that for each server host some like >> 150+ sites... I can bundle gems in a vendor dir? So in future if >> there >> is a "security problem in merb" I need to edit 150+ projects and then >> git push it on the server... we are crazy? > > Yeah that would be pretty crazy. At the same time, if a feature comes > into merb that breaks every single one of your 150+ apps do you want > your current app that is being developed to not be able to take > advantage of this new feature? > > It's all about pros/cons and choosing a path that fits your goals / > needs. > > For me, bundler equlas my app works regardless of the system gems. In > fact I've made my production environment ruby 1.8.7 + rubygems 1.3.5 + > bundler + rake - everything else needs to be inside the app dir. > I'm not a hosting provider (Engine Yard Solo / Heroku), ZN either > looks after everything or the client looks after everything (including > hosting/running). Hence why I'm bothering with MCMS, setting up a > Joomla site once is great, doing it 20+ times is a real damn pain in > the ass! > >> I want (if possible) that all of us can take a GLOBAL view, don't see >> only your reality but think to: >> >> - Newbie people >> - Big society >> - You > > Well at the end of the day each person figures out what is best for > themselves, if they have a need to service 1000s of clients / apps and > want to manage an infrastructure efficiently, they'll figure out a way > and hopefully share their experience. > > For me my goals are pretty specific - build content websites that run > on MCMS so I have minimum moving parts. I neither have the time nor > the skills required to build Basecamp/Highrise/GitHub type > applications on my own... > > I was a newbie to rails, then I found merb (0.6) and got off and > running, now I get ruby, and switch between sintra & merb. I'm self > taught, the only thing I had going for me when I hit ruby was a > foundation in OO via Java. > > From what I can tell you're looking for a way to manage 150+ apps that > are built on merb - imo that task is just plain "not" simple... Maybe > merb isn't the tool for you? Maybe it is and you're in a unique > situation to be able to figure it out and provide patches to allow > merb to thrive in such a situation. > >> Then, about the dead of merb, I talked with some member of the >> current >> team of merb and I don't think It will die. > > I don't think merb will die either. it has its place and use. > > Nick > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "merb" group. 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