Here on the surface of the sun, we just went blasting through the
$2.50 mark (here on the west side, you Phoenixites) for diesel, and
the schmuck that has the lone bio pump in town has reportedly raised
his price to $2.80.
My wallet weepeth.

AZ Bob 

On 7/7/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its insane diesel just jumped up to 2.25 overnight and 2.15 for gas from 
> 2.18 for diesel and 2.03 for gas.  WTF???
> 
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> 
> > I know these threads get tiring, but I am still in my
> > first year of "dieseling" and I recall from this past
> > winter the mantra "Diesel is always higher in the
> > winter because of demand for heating oil. Gas is
> > higher in the summer becuase of the travel season"
> > Fall agricultural use also uses alot of diesel it was
> > said...can't see, personally, how it's more than
> > planting in winter - it should be less. Plow, till,
> > rotovate, plant, cultivate, etc...harvest is nothing
> > in comparison.
> > 
> > ANYWAY, What the hell is the story now?
> > 
> >>From what I know, there are no "diesel refineries",
> > there are oil refineries and all sorts of stuff gets
> > separated out. It can only be two things, it seems:
> > 1. Higher demand. Well, I doubt that as train shipping
> > has jumped substantially (this happens in uncertain
> > economic times and confirmed by my friend who works
> > for one of the big rail freight lines) and trains use
> > ALOT less diesel to move the same freight as trucks
> > would. Is trucking up so much to offset this and
> > create higher demand?
> > 2. Conspiracy (unproveable speculation here). The oil
> > companies remember that the '70's oil crisis caused a
> > jump in the sale of diesel vehicles. It's happening
> > again. Many new diesel models introduced. Front cover
> > of local car mag advertized the diesel Passat Wagon at
> > 30-whatever mpg, etc. Fed gov just passed a $4,000 (!)
> > tax credit for the purchase of a new diesel vehicle.
> > 
> > The oil co's didn't care in the 70's/80's as they sold
> > gas and diesel. WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW is that BioD is
> > becoming increasingly popular (log way to go, but no
> > doubt it is happening). I am wondering if they are not
> > keeping the cost high to DISSUADE the purchase of
> > diesel vehicles which in a few years might be able to
> > fill up on BioD for less than dinoD, which will mean
> > $0 from THAT customer to big oil (unless they are in
> > the BioD game too (I would be if I were them)).
> > 
> > In Germany BioD is the CHEAPEST fuel available...so
> > with economy of scale, price will come way down. (Euro
> > fuels are so high becuase they are about 70% tax).
> > 
> > Thoughts on the conspiracy theory?
> > 
> > P.S. THe old 240D (new to me) is working great.
> > Fun...going from the SD to it is like driving a
> > Mercedes go-cart...peppier than I thought (W115 might
> > be the reason).
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri
> > -1985 300SD, 207K miles, "Wulf" http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
> > -1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs
> Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
> > -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"
> > 
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