The "I'll wake up & catch him" theory is all wrong.
 
I woke up one night to find someone going through the stuff in my bedroom.
The light was off and I didn't move. The person walk out of the room, I
waited a few moments & sat up. Then I heard someone walk (not run) through
and out of the house - he left the back door open. Apparently, the person
was watching to see if he had woken me up. I had a loaded N frame S&W .357
in the nightstand and I'm convinced that he would have stolen it if I had
not woken up.
 
I own hand guns and these days they stay locked up at night.
 
I forgot to mention - I'm about to test for my TaeKwonDo black belt.
Providing I get close enough, the next intruder is going to be in some
serious pain!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com


 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JabbaHursty
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the reality... loaded guns and kids!


my strategy is simple.

i live alone.  i keep the bedroom door locked.  if you break in and i hear
you in the living room, i'll call the police and wait.  if you try to break
the bedroom door down in the interim (can't imagine why you would, but if
you did) you get shot through the door by a large calibre handgun.  

it's a simple plan

if my kid is over, the guns stay locked up.  it puts me at a large
disadvantage, but i can't see having any sort of loaded weapon around a
child.  

i keep a .45 in the car and carry it into my office.  our office park is
secluded and has a history of crime, including violent crime.  when i leave
at night, i am almost always the last one in this area to leave, but i'm
carrying the .45

i also have a .380 keltec that is so light i can wear it anywhere as easily
as wearing a cellphone.

i think i've got it fairly well covered


At 12:38 PM 8/30/2005, you wrote:



sirs 
 the reality or this matter is you are no safer with a gun in your home than
without as a matter of fact firearms can and have been used against the
owner either by a thief ( rarely) or during a domestic disturbance ( common)
my point here is a crook breaks  
it might be at 4:00 am will a person be able to do all of the necessary
stuff quickly,quietly and legally  
think about it... you are sound a sleep and all of the sudden your wife
wakes you and all hell breaks loose  can a gun be retrieved loaded police
called and on and on???
 and what if you found later it was your son sneaking in from a late night
with his buddies ????
 I have more guns than the navy 
 I don't want ppl to be disarmed ...ever
 what I want is for folks to at least understand is guns can and often are
stolen  and later used against regular ppl 
it seems like most ppl who own firearms never receive any training in the
care storage and use of them ( just going off to a range or shooting a few
rounds off into the woods aint gonna get it  
AND HAVE NOOOOOO IDEA  of the law 
 
 it is my strongly held belief for home protection a 410 pump shotgun with
00 buckshot is really the way to go 
A its is intimidating as hell ... you rack a pump gun in any house
EVERYTHING STOPPS!!!!
B  it has the unequaled stopping power of a 41.cal. magnum
 C it for all of its power  can be fired quite comfortably by a woman 
D ammo is cheep 
  it can also be used to hunt ,sport shoot , and the gun does not cost a lot
to get the thing
ideally it could be loaded, and locked with the cable lock made by mossberg
running thru the action so it could not be closed and therefore fired the
gun can be locked to a radiator or something heavy in a bed room 
multiple keys then made and placed  in strategic locations .. unlocking is
simple  
 
 lastly 
 by the time recruits are taught anything about firearms its AFTER 7 MONTHS
OF ....LAW
LAW...LAW!!
  our "one hour firearms  course" has been expanded to 3 weeks! 500 rounds
in the morning, 500 rounds in the afternoon
weapon retention , combat shooting, judgement, firearm safety, cleaning
,action drills,
 then go run  (fast)... stop!!! draw weapon and shoot accurately... 
   it goes on and on  
 I am sure  you had the same training we did 
 I an sure you have actually picked up dead kids all shot to hell 
 I am sure you have seen the parents of these kids in anguish
 I am sure you have talked to ppl who thought you could get a gun , make
there home safe ,and a tragedy happened
 I am sure you have heard that single bagpiper playing amazing grace..  and
the 21 gun salute that follows....
 
so keep giving these people advice on keeping a loaded firearm in the house
around kids
 
 because I am sure about you 
 
mike collins
 1985 500 sec 
 
 
On 8/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A gun that is locked up and unloaded will do NO good when its needed.
> People who keep their guns locked up etc probably should not be owning
> guns in the first place if they are worried about their kids.  When you
> are a serious gun owner the first thing you should do is start out very
> early educating your kids about guns, and not touching them.  Sort of
> takes the mystery out of it and they dont go messing with them when you
> are not at home.  I have plenty of weapons all loaded up and ready to go
> around the house and the kids know not to mess with them.  They have no
> interest in messing with them. Now on the other hand, when we get to the
> stage of them having friends over, a different approach will have to be
> taken as most other kids will not have this sort of training.
> 
 
 
 
 
 
I agree with you 100 percent. I was raised in a house with loaded guns
available all the time, and we never played with them. We were taught
what guns could do. We watched livestock and game die from a gunshot, so
the danger was impressed on us. Nowadays, folks don't want to
"traumatize" their kids, so the kids never really KNOW the dangers of
discharging a firearm.

Also, Mr. Policeman and his ilk think that because they took a one-hour
course in firearm training at the academy, they should be the only ones
allowed to carry weapons because they KNOW how to handle them.

I think the weapons should be taken away from the cops for a while so
they could experience being disarmed while the criminals preyed on them.
I think they would change their tune.

Just my 2 cents.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536
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