I think the algae can grow in brackish and sewer water and whatever else you put it in.
I kinda like that poisonous tree in NYC idea though. --R dave walton wrote: > The trick is to use what works for you. Does not make much sense to > install 100's of vertical water tanks in arid regions where fresh > water comes from desalination plants, or to plant thousands of > poisonous trees in the suburbs of New York. > I do suggest you start doing something. > > -Dave Walton > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> me too. I am not sure anyone knows much about this plant. First it >> was native to pakistan and india, now it is indigenous to South >> America. I do know that poisonous plants are in general, not good >> neighbors. I like algae, in ponds or vertical. It just seems much >> more realistic. >> >> >> At 12:28 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote: >> >>> Count me as a sekptic. There will still be an energy cost in fertilizing, >>> harvesting, processing, and getting it to market. >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Ponds are old, vertical is the new hotness. I have yet to see anyone do >>>> it commercially yet on any kind of scale and the vertical process seems >>>> to be pretty closely guarded. >>>> >>>> Jatropha on the other hand is indigenous to S American and could easily >>>> make poor countries richer using non arable soil (which they tend to >>>> have plenty of). Processing and producing the oil is already happening. >>>> >>>> -Rolf >>>> >>>> Loren Faeth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, and besides, there is NO reason to introduce this poisonous >>>>> plant to the US for fuel. We can grow all the fuel we need with >>>>> algae farms. Do a search for algae and Diesel fuel. you fill find >>>>> very little about the black stuff that grows in your tank, and a LOT >>>>> about growing algae to produce home grown Diesel. One company I am >>>>> working with is going all out to be early in the market for producing >>>>> bioD from Algae. >>>>> >>>>> No financial interest etc. The usual disclaimers. But I am not in >>>>> favor of introducing non-native plant species. They can wreak havoc >>>>> with the ecosystem, much more than all the fossil fuel burned in the >>>>> whole world. Grow native plants. Make your Dissel fool out of >>>>> peanuts or grow your own soybeans or something. (yeah, I know soy is >>>>> not native, but it is here and it does not spread like uncontrolled >>>>> weeds (kudzu)) >>>>> >>>>> Make your backyard into a pond and grow your own algae. Build your >>>>> own still to process it. But leave the non-native poisonous plants >>>>> in india. please! At least until the ag colleges declare it safe >>>>> to grow. Even then use a shaker of salt, because it was the ag >>>>> colleges that introduced multiflora rose! >>>>> >>>>> At 07:54 PM 8/4/2008, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What he said. He is correct. >>>>>> BillR >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >>>>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>>>> On Behalf Of Loren Faeth >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:52 AM >>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jatropha Oil, the next hottest thing in biodiesel @ >>>>>> 1.75gal? >>>>>> >>>>>> If it poisonous, be "vewy vewy caweful" to quote Elder Fudd, about >>>>>> introducing it to the US!!! Remember Kudzu? How bout the >>>>>> government promoted multiflora rose? Neither of those are >>>>>> poisonous, but are extreme nuisance. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it is poisonous to humans, it is likely poisonous to bovine, >>>>>> equine and other animal types. If you think the price of a steak is >>>>>> high now, just wait until farmers and ranchers have to manually >>>>>> patrol every square foot of ground to destroy Jatropha plants. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not saying that we know the plant is poisonous to cattle, hogs, >>>>>> chicken or horses, buffalo, elk, moose, bambi, cats or dogs, but it >>>>>> is best to leave that research to the Ag universities where escapes >>>>>> of the plant can be prevented. If every Joe Diesel plants the stuff >>>>>> in his backyard and it proves a menace to animals, there will be no >>>>>> putting the genie back in the bottle. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> $0.02 FWIW >>>>>> >>>>>> At 08:48 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been playing around with a few plants myself. You have to be >>>>>>> careful with it - it's poisonous. Don't let the pets or kids near the >>>>>>> plants or oil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dave Walton >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/4/08, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where can I get this stuff. More importantly who is bringing it in the >>>>>>>> country so I can invest in their stock? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_oil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If Mercedes is in on it so am I. I'll even go SVO at that price. >>>>>>>> >>>> $1.75 >>>> >>>>>>>> gallon, thats like pre W prices! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Rolf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Loren Faeth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Loren Faeth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> Loren Faeth >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
