re: your comment <<B47 ...grossly underpowered>>

My memory must be more faulty than I thought - on a recent Military Channel 
program called "Top 10 Bombers" they went thru the various designs and when 
they spoke of the B47 they said it was *very* fast - like a fighter with 4 
engines so fast in fact that when F86s would come up to give chase in mock 
interceptions they rarely were able to catch the B47.

It looked like a early B52 design with the cockpit stuck on top of the 
fuseloge like a P51D cockpit but for more then 1 person. and the engines 
hanging down on long pylons slightly forward -

Checked wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-47_Stratojet  it says it flew 
at high subsonic speeds - but I guess it could fly at that speed and still 
be considered  underpowered - and it
all subject to interpretation.
;-)

Larry

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From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Boeing had some elegant designs, still does.  Got the fuselage right
> on the 707, for sure, since it's still in production.
>
> However, some features, while very well executed by Boeing, are
> hardly exlusive -- thin, swept wings are a German innovation, so are
> pylon mounted engines (although not as marked as the Boeing designs),
> and the pylon is far less for service access than to get the engine
> out of the air flow on the wing -- especially at low speeds, having
> the engine suck air backwards off the wing surface really interferes
> with lift!
>
> Russian and European designers were rather slow to pick up on this
> fact -- most of their early designs had the engines buried in the
> wing root (DH Comet, Vampire Bombers, and TU 104s, the civilian
> version of the bomber).
>
> The B-47 was definitely an experimental aircraft, though, as not all
> these ideas worked out well: grossly underpowered, very short range
> due to excessive fuel consumption (straight turbojets, after all),
> nasty flying characteristics, and way too many landing accidents.
>
> The B-52 was much better, although the Tupolev Bear outperforms it in
> most areas.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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