I have seen movies of B47s getting launched with those JATO bottles. What a ride that would have been!
Just did a UTUBER search, came up with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4mrxUtjxQ Put B 47 in the search box, a bunch come up. Those drivers earned their meager paychex flying those contraptions. OK Wilton, tell me about B-58s! --R Wilton Strickland wrote: > 'In 600 mph class; had six J-47 engines; certainly could have used more > power; slow to accelerate; slow to decelerate once it was going (was very > streamlined - cigar-shaped). 'Used water injection to increase thrust on > takeoff. 'Sometimes used 28 to 30 JATO (rocket) bottles on takeoff, too. > Official max gross weight of 225 klbs., but I've seen it at 235 klbs. > Strategic Air Command (SAC) had 1800 of 'em; my base (Lincoln, NE) had 100 > of 'em. They served the country very well for about 15 years. RAAF had > about 7 of 'em, I think. > > B-47E's performed many a LABS maneuver - a bomb run performed by releasing > bomb in the climbing vertical phase just before going over the top of a > loop - yes, a loop, an inside loop. The maneuver waste used to "toss" the > nuclear weapon to the target; bomb would continued upward some before > falling back toward target. Meanwhile the aircraft went over the top of the > loop, and, as it started down the other side, it would roll upright > accelerating and descending to "get the Hell out of Dodge." Advantages of > the maneuver: approach target very low to avoid RADAR, pull up and release > to get bomb above its low altitude release limit and improve (increase) > escape time for the aircraft and crew - escape the blast shock wave, that > is. > > All B-52's through G models (8 J-57 engines) could have used more power, > too; 'finally had a very responsive airplane and power to spare in the H > model (8 TF-33 engines); had to set "thrust gate" on H model throttle > quadrant to keep from "over-powering" - accelerating too fast could pitch > nose up before getting trim adjusted." > > Wilton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "larry turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - EV > > > >> re: your comment <<B47 ...grossly underpowered>> >> >> My memory must be more faulty than I thought - on a recent Military >> > Channel > >> program called "Top 10 Bombers" they went thru the various designs and >> > when > >> they spoke of the B47 they said it was *very* fast - like a fighter with 4 >> engines so fast in fact that when F86s would come up to give chase in mock >> interceptions they rarely were able to catch the B47. >> >> It looked like a early B52 design with the cockpit stuck on top of the >> fuseloge like a P51D cockpit but for more then 1 person. and the engines >> hanging down on long pylons slightly forward - >> >> Checked wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-47_Stratojet it says it >> > flew > >> at high subsonic speeds - but I guess it could fly at that speed and still >> be considered underpowered - and it >> all subject to interpretation. >> ;-) >> >> Larry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - EV >> >> >> >>> Boeing had some elegant designs, still does. Got the fuselage right >>> on the 707, for sure, since it's still in production. >>> >>> However, some features, while very well executed by Boeing, are >>> hardly exlusive -- thin, swept wings are a German innovation, so are >>> pylon mounted engines (although not as marked as the Boeing designs), >>> and the pylon is far less for service access than to get the engine >>> out of the air flow on the wing -- especially at low speeds, having >>> the engine suck air backwards off the wing surface really interferes >>> with lift! >>> >>> Russian and European designers were rather slow to pick up on this >>> fact -- most of their early designs had the engines buried in the >>> wing root (DH Comet, Vampire Bombers, and TU 104s, the civilian >>> version of the bomber). >>> >>> The B-47 was definitely an experimental aircraft, though, as not all >>> these ideas worked out well: grossly underpowered, very short range >>> due to excessive fuel consumption (straight turbojets, after all), >>> nasty flying characteristics, and way too many landing accidents. >>> >>> The B-52 was much better, although the Tupolev Bear outperforms it in >>> most areas. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 >>> > 12:00 > >>> AM >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
