Governments don't have memories; governments NEVER learn.  For examole, we
individuals remember Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, etc.; now Iraq,
Afghanistan, but governments can't seem to remember them when they need to.

Wilton

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wonko the Sane" <don.b...@gmail.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war


> And you'd say that getting into these derivatives was not bad management?
My
> understanding is that a bonus is paid on performance -- how much money you
> end up making the company, not how much you sell. If the end result of
your
> actions is that you bring down the company and perhaps the world economy
to
> boot, should that be rewarded?
>
> For better or for worse, some folks are walking away with millions in
> "retention pay" (and more than a few took the "retention pay" and then
> left). The end result will be that -- hopefully -- IF there is more of my
> tax money (and yours) pumped into these too-big-to-fail companies, then
> there are strings attached. Personally, I hope we tax the hell out of
those
> bonuses. If you get a bonus with corporate money, then that is fine. If
you
> are getting a bonus with MY money, then I, as a taxpayer and by extension
> one of the largest owners of the company, then I want it back.
>
> More than outrage that these losers are walking away with millions is the
> outrage that these losers are walking away with millions from the public
> coffers, money intended to prop up the company (and not the individual
bank
> accounts of its employees).
>
> Next time, any government money comes with a whole lot of strings and up
> front agreements.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> > I can see one business going under & being accused of bad management -
take
> > Enron for example. But they were one company in their industry and it
was
> > very clear that they "cooked the books". Everyone else in the same
industry
> > waded through the Enron crises without a problem.
> >
> > AIG and the others are an entirely different situation.
> >
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