wow attack after attack. where is the moderator during all of this?
i attacked no one and get attacked again and again and again by people like penoff (who, btw, is personally beholden to me, which makes it even uglier) we were once friends of sort. it was penoff who named me "jabba" today, just viciousness and animalism. i ask no one to fall in step with my ideas, especially those that are bizarre and psychotic what is it with you people that you must launch personal attack after personal attack? a once shining beacon of the mercedes world is reduced to this? i really suggest those of you who are involved in its destruction repent. you can do better than this. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:41 AM, LWB250 <lwb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > It's mainly because Hurst is an obsessive maniac who lashes out at anyone > who doesn't fall in step with his bizarre and often psychotic ideas, myself > being one of those. > > The easiest way to deal with such things is to utilize your mail filter. > It makes the list a far easier read and eliminates the fringe element that > skulk in the dark corners, only to surface when they get off their meds. > > I believe the proper term is "troll", but if you ever saw Hurst, his > physical makeup hardly fits this. Better the moniker "Jabba", which he > earned some years ago. > > Dan > > > --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Walt Zarnoch <zarnoch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Walt Zarnoch <zarnoch...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 2:04 AM > > I don't think I perrsonally drove > > anyone away. > > > > I rarely intervene in the general flow of the list, and > > what little I do say > > is usualy looking for tidbits of information to help with > > my project, or a > > reply to an off-topic discussion. > > > > I guess I slipped up by giving an opinion about the double > > pane window > > thing, but that is hardly a reason for anyone to fly off > > the handle. > > > > I have no personal issue with anyone here, I understand we > > all have a > > difference in opinion, and that is a good thing. > > > > I just can't see why this is going on right now. > > > > Walt > > On Dec 19, 2010 1:29 AM, "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > if you wish to learn, it's probably not best to drive > > jaime to > > unsubscribe. > > > he's not only a good fella, but has much specialized > > knowledge. first to > > > drive him off and then to just keep piling on is not > > stylish > > > > > > i also got an email from richard, the founder of this > > list, regarding the > > > endless slander he receives here > > > > > > you guys really act viciously and abnormally and i > > don't think you see it > > at > > > all > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Walt Zarnoch <zarnoch...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Ok, I'm a nobody with less experience than most > > list member's pinky toes, > > >> but I won't stand people outright flaming. > > >> > > >> I don't care to know the exact nature of what was > > going on when I first > > >> joined the list, but it seems to be repeating > > itself. I don't know why. > > >> I don't care who started it, or their reasons. > > >> > > >> Are not we all above this? Does everything now > > devolve to people acting > > >> like > > >> rabid dogs? > > >> > > >> I joined this list to learn, not to get my inbox > > accosted with vitriolic > > >> hate. One would think that people who take pride > > in owning or working on > > a > > >> Benz would be better suited at turning the other > > cheek and acting > > congenial > > >> to their fellow man, especially during this > > season. > > >> > > >> Walt > > >> On Dec 19, 2010 12:49 AM, "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? > > >> > > > >> > the fools have already driven jaime off the > > lists. what more do you > > want > > >> > from him? he's left. everyone here must be > > like you? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik > > & Fay <heni...@ozemail.com.au > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Yes I saw you where back and it seems > > back to your usual way of > > >> expressing > > >> >> yourself. > > >> >> > > >> >> I reckon I still have the right to > > express thoughts on this list or > > >> perhaps > > >> >> you are now in charge and only mad rants, > > directed at whole sections > > of > > >> list > > >> >> members, are allowed (ie. the haters and > > ignorant ones) and the hating > > >> >> ignorant ones are especially going to > > feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt > > >> and > > >> >> the ueber master of automotive knowledge, > > or has he had his dummy > > spit, > > >> >> grabbed his bat and joined a more > > intelligent MB forum, where they > > >> >> appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and > > deride any MB that cost less > > >> than > > >> >> 20K to buy. > > >> >> > > >> >> Now perhaps you would be good enough to > > point out the rule that posts, > > >> of > > >> a > > >> >> certain age, cannot be commented upon. > > The original post from the > > master > > >> was > > >> >> on the 13th of December and unfortunately > > I have been busy, thus > > unable > > >> to > > >> >> catch up on all the posts sent by the > > members. > > >> >> > > >> >> There are lots of things wrong with me > > but I think the one you are > > >> >> referring to is the one where I am not > > happy for a list member to call > > >> the > > >> >> list (or some members thereof) ignorant > > because they declared the 140 > > to > > >> be > > >> >> a step back for Mercedes, or at the very > > least contain some very > > >> expensive > > >> >> components that fail in a time frame not > > usual for a Benz product. > > >> >> > > >> >> Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler > > as a customer liaison > > >> executive, > > >> >> in charge of telling them that they are > > ignorant to be unhappy that > > >> their > > >> MB > > >> >> is spending a lot of time in the workshop > > and the reason the MB's of > > the > > >> mid > > >> >> 90's to late 00's are less reliable than > > the cars they replaced is > > that > > >> this > > >> >> is how automotive development works. "We > > tried to build a more > > >> sophisticated > > >> >> machine on a smaller budget and it just > > didn't work out quite the way > > it > > >> was > > >> >> supposed to but that's OK with us, we get > > to sell some very expensive > > >> bits > > >> >> to you ignorant fools." > > >> >> > > >> >> Hendrik > > >> >> who is ignorant and hates some things, > > like machines that I can't > > repair > > >> >> > > >> >> Gary Hurst wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> can't you guys leave anything alone? > > he's unsubscribed already and > > it's > > >> >>> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, > > Hendrik & Fay < > > heni...@ozemail.com.au > > >> >>> >wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> Not sure if I should say > > anything, I may be accused of being > > ignorant > > >> by > > >> >>>> the new high master of > > knowledge. > > >> >>>> However being a daredevil I shall > > try and sneak some stupidity past > > >> the > > >> >>>> overlord of automotive > > development information, guess if he catches > > me > > >> >>>> I'll > > >> >>>> cop a beating with the workshop > > manual of the W140 (and that's gotta > > >> >>>> hurt, > > >> >>>> especially if it includes the > > electronic section). > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Anyway I think the gripe the > > ignorant so and so's have is fair > > enough. > > >> >>>> The > > >> >>>> issue being that there are a lot > > of MB only parts on that car that > > >> fail > > >> >>>> eventually and trying to find a > > part out of a wreck is a lottery, > > >> >>>> considering that the part may > > fail again. > > >> >>>> Automotive development is good > > when it is taken one step after > > another > > >> >>>> but > > >> >>>> the leap between the 126 and 140 > > was mighty and a bit too far. As a > > >> side > > >> >>>> note the W220 also suffered from > > reliability problems due to more > > >> >>>> leaping. > > >> >>>> Technology is great when it works > > but when it doesn't and costs a > > >> fortune > > >> >>>> to fix it is a pain. > > >> >>>> I have heard stories of cars > > being wrecked because the accident > > >> damaged > > >> >>>> electrical equipment that is too > > expensive too replace, or damaged > > >> >>>> electrical lines which in turn > > damaged the various computers that > > are > > >> in > > >> >>>> a > > >> >>>> car. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Hendrik > > >> >>>> who is hiding from the grand high > > overlord master of all things > > >> Mercedes > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> Wow, the ignorance on this > > list has reached an all time high. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> You folks really haven't a > > clue about how automotive development > > >> >>>>> works, and why an S class is > > designed the way they are. Not a clue. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> Jaime > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________ > > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> >> For new and used parts go to > > www.okiebenz.com > > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> >> > > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options > > go to: > > >> >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > For new and used parts go to > > www.okiebenz.com > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > > to: > > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> _______________________________________ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
