During PP (personal protection) class, we did an  excellent drill. Two people 
stand on the firing line. One person facing  the target with their pistol 
sitting on a chair. THe second person  stands next to them, but facing AWAY 
from the firing line. THe range  officer yells "GO" and the person facing the 
target picks up the  weapons and shoots...meanwhile the other person runs full 
speed in the  other direction and STOPS when the shot is heard.
  
  THe point - you can make it 25 feet in that time frame. As a SWAT team  
acquantance said. If there is a man on the other side of the living  room 
threatening you with a knife, you better shoot quick...and you  might/probably 
still get stabbed. 
  
  Chris

Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That reminds me of the following...

SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and
two small children.  Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife
comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises
the knife and charges.  You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert
shot.  You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.  What do
you do?

LIBERAL ANSWER:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!  Does the man
look poor and oppressed?  Have I ever done anything to him that would
inspire him to attack?  Can we run away?  What does my wife think?  What
about the kids?  Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock the
knife out of his hand?  What does the law say about this situation?  Does
the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it?  Why am I carrying a
loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my children?
Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me?  Does he definitely
want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me?  If I grab his
knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing me?  This
is all so confusing!  I need to debate this with some friends for a few days
to try to come to a conclusion.

CONSERVATIVE ANSWER:
BANG!

TEXAN ANSWER:
BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!
click....(Sounds of reloading)
Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids
think?"
Son: "Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too."
BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!
Click.
Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy!  Where those the Winchester Silver Tips?"

-----Original Message-----
From: redghost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw.  Last
week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall.  Had an AK and
side arm.  There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying
concealed.  Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling
the trigger.  He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of
severe brain damage.  I suspect he had that prior to the bullets
hitting.

On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM, 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anybody know anything about the newer Alfas?   A friend of mine has WAY
> too many vehicles and two houses (and one wife telling him to pare it
> down). He may be selling the Alfa. It is a 1991 convertible with 60,000
> miles.

Donald, the Spyder had a looong production run. Basically a pretty sturdy
little car, but with inevitable Italian quirks. Rust like mad underneath if
given the chance. Engines are robust but will grenade if the timing (chain,
IIRC) isn't changed on cue.

Main problem is parts and service expertise. Alfa left the U.S. years ago
and their former parts stock is now in private hands. Depending on your DIY
comfort level, availability of a mechanic locally who wants to fuss with
them, or do so for rates within reason, may be an issue.

Richard Welty runs the Alfa list(s), some of the oldest and best lists on
the Web. The Alfa bunch are very easy to get along with. Richard was on the
old VRX lists, but I don't think he came over here.

Mac


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