Dave, Very real concerns. The first one is simply reality. Your gun may do you NO good. Your gun CAN do you harm (taken away from you - although that doesn't happen nearly as often as it's claimed by some). On the other hand, approximately 2 million crimes are thwarted every year in the US by reg citizens with guns. If I were single, I probably would not carry concealed. But with 5 little girls, my concern is being UTTERLY defenseless (in the sense of defending seven people at once - 5+me+wife). So I do...hope it never leaves the holster. Your second point is very good. We were taught NEVER to play hero as you DO NOT know what is going on - as your example points out. A million others can be imagined. If you do know EXACTLY what is happening, as you see it all unfold, bit of a different story. Interestingly, according to Catholic moral theology (I'm Catholic, so this matters to me), you are required to defend the defenseless as you would yourself...but again, you still HAVE TO KNOW what's really happening. Carrying is not for everyone. INterestingly, got an e-mail from a priest-friend in Switzerland and he said it is nothing to see teenagers with assault rifles on busses and on their backs riding bikes. The govt supplies de-militarized rifles to all its citizens DIRT CHEAP, requires all men to be on military call and keep full auto weapons and ammo in their homes and the state pays for rifle marksmanship training for youth. Wild. And there are no drive bys, people at McDOnald's with AK's, etc. Chris
David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This line of discussion kind of sums up my problem with concealed carry. It always seems to me that for it to make any sense as "protection," you had to be ready to shoot at any time, with an itchy trigger finger. This *greatly* raises the odds that some innocent person is going to get shot in a misunderstanding. It certainly happens too often with cops, and cops are trained in that sort of thing, unlike someone who's just picked up a gun at the local pawn shop and tucked it in their belt. Not to mention, in the public place "hero" scenarios gun advocates like to talk about, there's the real problem of knowing who's on your side. Let's say some guy decides to rob the bank you're in and five people whip out pistols. How do you know who you need to shoot and who you don't? Some of them might be in on the job. Do you shoot all of them just to be sure? _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 28 00:19:09 2005 Received: from tomts16.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.4] helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EgWjc-0000He-0O for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:19:08 +0000 Received: from [64.230.124.146] by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:19:05 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:18:59 -0500 From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [0] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] So, what IS the diameter of the lower hose? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:19:09 -0000 Heck, I'm just pleased to pieces that you all want to fix my car, but no one yet assisted me in my leisure by telling me the diameter of the lower rad hose on my 240d. :-) Mac
