Maybe THIS is where we should draw a big line......... Mike On Sep 6, 2013 3:41 PM, "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> wrote:
> Group hug? > > <yikes!> > > Dan > > On Sep 6, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > i'd say the best parts with the best service, but how petty it would be > of > > me to quibble with such a glowing endorsement! > > > > i really think the whole thing was and is blown out of proportion. i > have > > a bit of an earl weaver style bad temper and when the lid blows, it > really > > blows. i'm not trying to justify my previous antics. in fact, i don't > > think they were justified at all. i regret them and wish i hadn't have > > blown up as i did. i was put in bad circumstances, unfairly, and i > didn't > > quite rise to the occasion but rather sunk with it to the murky bottom. > > i'd like to think i'd do better today. > > > > it all took on kind of a mythologized life of it's own as such things > sadly > > often do when a mob mentality is at work. most of you had done business > > with me for years and everything was always happy so the idea that i > > suddenly became the incorrigible and unredeemable villain, adolf hitler > > II, overnight is just stupid and the ridiculousness of this extreme > > position becomes clearer as more and more people have actual interactions > > with me again. i'm not saying this to be critical of this group, per se, > > but this is just the unfortunate consequence of all groups. a common > > mythology is invented and adhered to and whether or not it is reality or > > fantasy is of no consequence to the mob. it's like some kind of tribal > > chimpanzee evolutionary biology thing or something maybe > > > > the simple bottom line is that all of you used to like me and liked to do > > business with me and you are all coming to like me and to like to do > > business with me once again because the reality is that i'm a likable guy > > who is good to do business with and the "supervillain" is just an > abstract > > fantasy with little actual connection to the real me. those who are hell > > bent on perpetuating the fantasy villain me mythology are rapidly losing > > all credibility in their quest to pin the collective crimes of humanity > on > > me. > > > > in other words, the war is over haters and you are just going to have to > > get with the getting along program as no one is going to believe your > story > > about me and the lindbergh baby anymore. hating on dr fat just has no > > future for you. > > > > at this time, please rise as dmitri and i sing "we are the world" :) > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM, <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> Well said Gary. I remember some of the stuff you said some years ago on > >> this list and while some of it was quite amusing, it was also a bit over > >> the top with personal attacks which is likely why you got banned. > >> This time around you have been nothing but civil. In my opinion you have > >> the absolute right to defend yourself when attacked And you have done > so in > >> a civilized and logical manner. > >> The bottom line is you are no bullshit. You provide good parts and a > good > >> service and that's the end of the story. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> as you should, wilton, but it is happening here. this thread starts > >> with > >>> trent telling the story of how MY "mess" is the reason he has problems, > >> aka > >>> why he steals when i answer allegations, i get told i ought to get > >> kicked > >>> off this list for it. it's not meant in the spirit of humor, but it is > >>> schoolyard bullying by people who think they can take free shots at me. > >> it > >>> is untoward and unbecoming and it ought not be tolerated by anyone > >>> > >>> as for trent, he stole and lied. that's a fact beyond dispute, not a > >>> personal attack. when he brings my name into conversation i have a > right > >>> to answer. the fact that when i do a number of people gang up on me is > >>> just sick. it ought to stop. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I strongly discourage personal attacks against any one of us. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Wilton > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Hurst" < > jabbahur...@gmail.com> > >>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 11:00 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> email me privately if you are interested in details. wilton is right > in > >>>>> saying we ought not go down this road again on the list. i think > also, > >>>>> however, i should be allowed to defend myself if attacked. personal > >>>>> attacks against me should be discouraged as well > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Gerry Archer < > arche...@embarqmail.com > >>> ** > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> ..............................****...... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No one is dealing with Trent or is even thinking about it IMO. It's > >> just > >>>>>> an interesting situation that several of us have been involved with. > >>>>>> Those > >>>>>> that want to keep him on the list probably just want to see how it > all > >>>>>> plays out. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What's this about Rusty threatening to murder your daughter and your > >>>>>> reporting him to the police? What about Rustys claim that you took > >> $15K > >>>>>> out of his bank account? > >>>>>> I don't see where anyone is treating you like Hitler. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gerry....who never ordered anything from Trent and just reads the > >> emails. > >>>>>> ..............................****........... > >>>>>> From: "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> why not just deal with people who don't rob you to begin with? the > >> guy > >>>>>>> stole from most everyone here and then lied to them about to this > >> day. > >>>>>>> he > >>>>>>> hasn't even acknowledged what the has done, let alone explained it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rusty continuously threatens to murder my daughter to the point > >> where i > >>>>>>> have to report him to the police and end my association with him > and > >> you > >>>>>>> guys make me the new hitler despite my treating each of you > >> excellently. > >>>>>>> this guy comes along out of nowhere, rips everyone off, lies about > >> it , > >>>>>>> runs away and then comes back saying he wants to start over and you > >> are > >>>>>>> desperate to offer him "a ray of light at the end of the tunnel" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> this is real madness > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Gerry Archer < > >> arche...@embarqmail.com > >>>>>>>> ** > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ...................... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It may be our "fixit" mentality. When our cars, appliances, > houses, > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>> name it; break down, our impetus is to "fix" it. Trent is > obviously > >>>>>>>> "broken" and our inclination is to fix Trent. > >>>>>>>> Grant is offering Trent a ray of light at the end of the tunnel; > >> IMO a > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> humane thing to do. Will anyone on this list try to do business > >> with > >>>>>>>> Trent > >>>>>>>> under the present conditions? That's beyond unlikely IMO. > >>>>>>>> Comment? > >>>>>>>> Gerry....A medical retiree who believes that there are helpless > >> cases > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> hopeless cases. > >>>>>>>> ...................... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> as i mentioned in the post i just made, this is really an > excellent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> point. > >>>>>>>>> even if you simply despise me to the point of your own detriment, > >> it > >>>>>>>>> doesn't explain why there is this group here who seems to be > >> desperate > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> trent to go from substance abusing thief and liar to parts > >> superstar, > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> him to "learn" and "get better" is this some kind of insane > >> esoteric > >>>>>>>>> religion or something or is there some reasonable basis for trent > >> to > >>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> saviour you await? and why trent, who has proven himself to be > the > >>>>>>>>> greatest failure than anyone in this business has ever been? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> something is so fabulously wrong with this picture. it has been > >> from > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> first day trent was introduced and remains so to the present day. > >> what > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> trent's allure to you trentistas? how can he have any allure to > >>>>>>>>> anyone? > >>>>>>>>> (these are actually serious questions apart from anything about > >>>>>>>>> personalities) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin > >>>>>>>>> <ka...@striplin.net>wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Why are we even talking about what Trent could be, are we that > >>>>>>>>> desperate > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> for Trent to all the sudden be great? We talk about a great > source > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> parts, well Gary is a pretty good source from what I hear. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2013 12:43 PM, G Mann wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Personally, I have a rule that says, "Sin all you want but never > >> ask > >>>>>>>>>> me > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> support your sinning" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I could care less about a DUI or what ever.. I only care about > a > >>>>>>>>>>> reliable > >>>>>>>>>>> supply of quality Mercedes parts, from someone who acts > >> responsibly, > >>>>>>>>>>> takes > >>>>>>>>>>> my orders, fills them in a timely manner or explains to me why > >> they > >>>>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>> be filled, then delivers as promised. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To date, all those elements are missing. Trent needs to display > >> some > >>>>>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>>>> business practices and good customer treatment. The reasons > >> those > >>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>> missing, frankly, I don't give a damn. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm easy to satisfy. Just give me what I want, when I want it, > >> at a > >>>>>>>>>>> fair > >>>>>>>>>>> price. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Q was a rare fellow, who cared about his customers and knew his > >>>>>>>>>>> products. > >>>>>>>>>>> Q2 has yet to display either. To bad. Perhaps he could grow > in > >>>>>>>>>>> life > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> a good AA sponsor.. and the 12 steps. Perhaps not... not my > >> decision > >>>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>> his alone. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Anything I've ever learned in business it to never lie to a > >>>>>>>>>>> customer, > >>>>>>>>>>> even > >>>>>>>>>>> a lie of omission. Anything less than total truth, however > >> harsh, is > >>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>> accepted. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Grant... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas < > >>>>>>>>>>> richthomas79TD300@******constructi**vity.net < > >>>>>>>>>>> http://constructivity.net > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> richthomas79TD300@****constructi**vity.net < > >>>>>>>>>>> http://constructivity.net>< > >>>>>>>>>>> richthomas79TD300@**constructi**vity.net< > >> http://constructivity.net> > >>>>>>>>>>> <richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net< > >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Time stamp 2:18AM, we know he is a drunk driver > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --R > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/13 12:47 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Trent's post was like a 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