I briefly considered a Touareg to replace my Ranger. Theres a video on Youtube
of one in some serious offroad situations where it does remarkably well
considering its a fairly simple soft roader.
I think the worst thing for VWs is that the dealers seem to be almost
universally schysters. Almost totally incompetent and unapologetic.
Unfortunately OK Don's experience seems to be mostly normal.
-Curt
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From: LarryT <l02tur...@comcast.net>
To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel
Is the VW Taureg held in the same low esteem as the rest of the VWs?
Larry
On 7/26/2014 7:57 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
The Audi diesels are VW TDIs. Many of the parts on my Jetta have both the VW
badge and the Audi linked rings.
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>-Curt
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> From: LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>To: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>; Mercedes Discussion List
><mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Newer Mercedes Diesel
>
>
>Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner
problems than
>VW problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles
- some look
>better than others so they can sell as family cars but
they are still
>"economical" cars (read cheap) and they have always been.
when I was
>working at the dealership we had a list of parts that
could be expected
>to fail at xx miles - muffler was good for 20K, starters
could go 60K
>and so on - I am going from memory so my numbers may be
off. point is,
>it's not a high end car as someone else pointed out. and
it won't last
>like a MB - or like a MB should last. If they built them
like MBs they
>would cost as much as MBs.
>
>OK - 2 questions:
>
> * does anyone have any experience with Audi diesels?
or I should
> ask were there any audi diesels made in the 2000-2010
time frame
> that had good reputations?
>
>
> * and has MBs quality problems from the late 90s to
early 00s?
>
>
>Thanks ya'll - this is very helpful ....
>Larryt
>
>On 7/26/2014 2:07 PM, clay wrote:
>> I was in the market for the passat TDI wagon a few
years back, but
>> decided to check with my cousin, since he sold them.
That was the
>> swiftest scratch off the list conversation. Ended up
holding onto the
>> E300D, and SWBMA purchased some korean sedan loaded
with bells and
>> whistles. She is now dumping that for a toy oda.
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored
chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame
in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:18 AM, LarryT via Mercedes
wrote:
>>
>>> I agree - begore reading the comments on this
list I would have had a
>>> VW diesel near the top of my list.
>>>
>>> Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one
I can afford...
>>>
>>> Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an
Jettas - would have
>>> liked a wagon ..
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2014 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
>>>> That is insightful, as some time ago when I
was looking for a car
>>>> for the youngest son I seriously considered
both Jettas and Passats.
>>>> Nearly every used one I looked at had issues
or a history of lousy
>>>> maintenance (if any.)
>>>>
>>>> My brother owned an early 2000s Passat that
he bought new. It was a
>>>> PITA from a parts standpoint, especially with
window regulators for
>>>> some reason. He got to the point where he
just kept his right rear
>>>> window wedged in place, as they replaced I
don't know how many
>>>> regulators. The worst part was that when
they did fail, none were
>>>> to be found in the States and they had to
come from Germany. Often
>>>> took 2-3 weeks or more.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad, as I like the Passat.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:01 AM, LarryT via
Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>> Wow - that's really interesting -- that
VW owners are so uncaring
>>>>> about the upkeep of their cars. I
wonder if they were leases or
>>>>> owned? Of course the data to be
analyzed is pretty extensive. IMO
>>>>> most car shoppers are interestied oin
one thing - "what's my
>>>>> ,onthly payment?" Advertisers pounce
on this also - watch some car
>>>>> commercials and all the push is ""only
$199/onth!" and on and on
>>>>> -- and when the shoppers show up they
don't hear residuals,
>>>>> interest rates, etc - alll the noral
things people should be
>>>>> interestied in when making a major
Lease or purchase. Your
>>>>> cousins experience proves this out -
unfortunately. Our spiral
>>>>> down to becoming a "throw away
society".
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a CDI? Are you pretty comfortable
with the build quality?
>>>>>
>>>>> LarryT
>>>>>
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