I believe that Audi & VW are still one and the same.... if not, someone please correct me.
I believe, based on what I have learned since my W140 and R129 ownership, that from 1996-7 through the early 2000s MB had most of the kinks worked out of their cars. This would not apply to the M class, which I have heard anecdotally to generally be POS all over. The early 90s were pretty ugly for MB in a lot of areas, but they seemed to take heed of what had happened and applied it to cars in the late 90s from what I can tell. Dan On Jul 26, 2014, at 6:49 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, I can see the problem with VW diesels are more owner problems than VW > problems although VW's are made to be utility vehicles - some look better > than others so they can sell as family cars but they are still "economical" > cars (read cheap) and they have always been. when I was working at the > dealership we had a list of parts that could be expected to fail at xx miles > - muffler was good for 20K, starters could go 60K and so on - I am going from > memory so my numbers may be off. point is, it's not a high end car as > someone else pointed out. and it won't last like a MB - or like a MB should > last. If they built them like MBs they would cost as much as MBs. > > OK - 2 questions: > > * does anyone have any experience with Audi diesels? or I should > ask were there any audi diesels made in the 2000-2010 time frame > that had good reputations? > > > * and has MBs quality problems from the late 90s to early 00s? > > > Thanks ya'll - this is very helpful .... > Larryt > > On 7/26/2014 2:07 PM, clay wrote: >> I was in the market for the passat TDI wagon a few years back, but decided >> to check with my cousin, since he sold them. That was the swiftest scratch >> off the list conversation. Ended up holding onto the E300D, and SWBMA >> purchased some korean sedan loaded with bells and whistles. She is now >> dumping that for a toy oda. >> >> >> clay >> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:18 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> I agree - begore reading the comments on this list I would have had a VW >>> diesel near the top of my list. >>> >>> Sounds like I am back to MB -- if I can find one I can afford... >>> >>> Its a shame -- I also was a fan of Passats an Jettas - would have liked a >>> wagon .. >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> On 7/26/2014 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>>> That is insightful, as some time ago when I was looking for a car for the >>>> youngest son I seriously considered both Jettas and Passats. Nearly every >>>> used one I looked at had issues or a history of lousy maintenance (if any.) >>>> >>>> My brother owned an early 2000s Passat that he bought new. It was a PITA >>>> from a parts standpoint, especially with window regulators for some >>>> reason. He got to the point where he just kept his right rear window >>>> wedged in place, as they replaced I don't know how many regulators. The >>>> worst part was that when they did fail, none were to be found in the >>>> States and they had to come from Germany. Often took 2-3 weeks or more. >>>> >>>> Too bad, as I like the Passat. >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:01 AM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow - that's really interesting -- that VW owners are so uncaring about >>>>> the upkeep of their cars. I wonder if they were leases or owned? Of >>>>> course the data to be analyzed is pretty extensive. IMO most car shoppers >>>>> are interestied oin one thing - "what's my ,onthly payment?" Advertisers >>>>> pounce on this also - watch some car commercials and all the push is >>>>> ""only $199/onth!" and on and on -- and when the shoppers show up they >>>>> don't hear residuals, interest rates, etc - alll the noral things people >>>>> should be interestied in when making a major Lease or purchase. Your >>>>> cousins experience proves this out - unfortunately. Our spiral down to >>>>> becoming a "throw away society". >>>>> >>>>> So, a CDI? Are you pretty comfortable with the build quality? >>>>> >>>>> LarryT >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. 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