All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter 
cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain 
interval. I have not had this problem myself though.

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> On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?    What about the E Class 
> Diesels of the 00's?  ;-)
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Larry,
>> 
>> You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel 
>> wagons from the 1980s.  These were nasty to begin with and had a history of 
>> some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 
>> 350SDL and the infamous "rodbender" diesels.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought some listers had said they had known of problems?  But it's 
>>> possibly I am remembering wrong.   I know someone had trouble with a GL 
>>> costing big $$s to repair.    If I am mistaken about the quality I would 
>>> consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels.... I like both with a 
>>> reference for the R Diesel.
>>> 
>>> Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get 
>>> surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned 
>>> models were well cared for.  CV's used as police cars are everywhere but 
>>> maintenance can be spotty.    MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US.
>>> 
>>> Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I  would consider a 140 over 
>>> the CVs.
>>> 
>>> I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the 
>>> same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with 
>>> MBs quality problems.  For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be 
>>> ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be 
>>> approaching "too expensive" for me.  So my biggest quality concerns would 
>>> focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based 
>>> on price.   I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i 
>>> would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and 
>>> mileage POV.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a 
>>> lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help gang -
>>> 
>>> LarryT
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>>> What makes you think the ml or r is not well made?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?    Eventually we're 
>>>>> going to need a newer car.  I would like to stay with MB but the decline 
>>>>> in quality has me worried.    Maybe I should look at Hyundai?   Their 10 
>>>>> yr/100K warranty looks attractive,....
>>>>> 
>>>>> What about VW ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gang,
>>>>>>    Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape?  saw t at a 
>>>>>> closed dealer and don't know the year or miles.   My concern is problem 
>>>>>> areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time.   Have 
>>>>>> also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a 
>>>>>> '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K!  That's more than 
>>>>>> our 91 300D which only has 236k.  But at this time I'm just looking.....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> LarryT
>>>>>> 91 300D
>>>>>> 78 240D
>>>>>> 74 911
>>>>>> 66 MGB
>>>>>> 
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