Thx!

On 8/31/2014 8:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter 
cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain 
interval. I have not had this problem myself though.

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On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?    What about the E Class 
Diesels of the 00's?  ;-)

Larry

On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Larry,

You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 
1980s.  These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) 
related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous 
"rodbender" diesels.

Dan


On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I thought some listers had said they had known of problems?  But it's possibly 
I am remembering wrong.   I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s 
to repair.    If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both 
the ML and R with diesels.... I like both with a reference for the R Diesel.

Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get 
surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models 
were well cared for.  CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance 
can be spotty.    MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US.

Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I  would consider a 140 over the 
CVs.

I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, 
i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems.  
For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of 
that range (06-11) would be approaching "too expensive" for me.  So my biggest 
quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target 
range based on price.   I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would 
naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV.

BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot 
about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well.

Thanks for all the help gang -

LarryT


On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
What makes you think the ml or r is not well made?

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On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?    Eventually we're going to 
need a newer car.  I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has 
me worried.    Maybe I should look at Hyundai?   Their 10 yr/100K warranty 
looks attractive,....

What about VW ?

Thanks,
Larry


On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
Hi Gang,
    Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape?  saw t at a 
closed dealer and don't know the year or miles.   My concern is problem areas 
and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time.   Have also been 
looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for 
$10K until i saw the mileage was 276K!  That's more than our 91 300D which only 
has 236k.  But at this time I'm just looking.....

Thoughts?
LarryT
91 300D
78 240D
74 911
66 MGB

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