Get out WHERE?  I've never come across that acronym before, and I am awash
daily in a veritable sea of acronyms.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Andrew... you have to get out more often...
>
> BUFF .. is the well accepted military "street name" for B-52... Big Ugly
> Fat F**Ker.   Aluminum overcast.. to big to fly.. to ugly to love... Unless
> you are extremely talented and incredibly smart.. like Wilton..
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I gotta ask - what's BUFF?
> >
> > Nixon was never a warm and fuzzy guy but he did OK politically.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I've never said I hate 'im, nor have ever heard any of my fellow B-52
> > > crewmen say such.  We just did not hold him in very high esteem.
> 'Still
> > > don't.
> > >
> > > Wilton
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Andrew Strasfogel
> > >   To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > >   Cc: WILTON
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:35 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> > >
> > >
> > >   Well a whole lot of hatin' going on.  If he is so despised how come
> he
> > > is a shoo-in to get renominated/reelected?
> > >
> > >
> > >   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >     We BUFF guys also held John Mc in low regard; his treatment of his
> > > wife sealed it for me.
> > >
> > >     Wilton
> > >
> > >     ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >     To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >     Cc: "G Mann" <g2ma...@gmail.com>
> > >     Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:45 AM
> > >     Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >       Well said, Wilton.
> > >
> > >       Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect.
> > >
> > >       I know three John McCain
> > >
> > >       The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited  from and used
> to
> > > his
> > >       advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low
> regard.
> > >
> > >       The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having
> endured
> > > the
> > >       endless torture and privation.
> > >
> > >       The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little,
> who
> > > dumped
> > >       and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the
> > > while he
> > >       was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold
> > that
> > > one in
> > >       pretty low regard also.
> > >
> > >       Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is
> smart
> > > and
> > >       ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see
> > an
> > >       apology in the future.
> > >       McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action.
> > Trump,
> > > even
> > >       if defeated will have "left his mark" before it's over in how DC
> > > elites do
> > >       business.
> > >
> > >       Frankly, it's the kind of "hope and change" much of America had
> in
> > > mind
> > >       when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be
> > > interesting to
> > >       watch them run away from it now.
> > >
> > >       Question:  If Germany had not made war on the civilized world,
> > would
> > > we be
> > >       driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been "discovered" in
> > > America?
> > >
> > >
> > >       On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:01 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >       wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >         In a sense, Trump was  right - McCain and others would not have
> > > been so
> > >         "famous" and considered so "heroic" if they had not been shot
> > down
> > > and
> > >         captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable.  But
> for
> > > the Grace
> > >         of God there was I.  I'm not so sure I could have endured the
> > many
> > > years of
> > >         captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely
> > > thankful
> > >         that I never had to try.  Those of us lucky enough to have NOT
> > > been shot
> > >         down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was
> > > willing to
> > >         exchange places with a POW.  I have great respect for every one
> > > them and
> > >         what they endured.
> > >
> > >         So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it
> > > like that -
> > >         well, Trump, who "dodged" such service completely, can't
> > > (shouldn't),
> > >         anyway.
> > >
> > >         Wilton
> > >
> > >         From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >         To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >         Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
> > >         Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:40 AM
> > >         Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >          >Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the
> > > Hanoi Hilton?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             Over North Vietnam radio?
> > >
> > >             Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his
> release?
> > > Anyone know
> > >             he got a Presidential Pardon?
> > >
> > >             Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what
> > the
> > > guy is
> > >             really made of.  Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you
> > > look at the
> > >             true
> > >             facts..
> > >
> > >             Just saying.. Go digging.
> > >
> > >             On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >             mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >               Or, better said, he handles himself?
> > >
> > >
> > >                <grin>
> > >
> > >                 > Dan
> > >
> > >              >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >           Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was
> an
> > > attempt
> > >           at fragging aimed at little john.  At any rate, he was NOT
> well
> > > liked in
> > >           his squadron.  Probably not on the float....   Anyone know
> for
> > > sure if the
> > >           rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't.  I
> > > have not
> > >           researched it.
> > >
> > >           I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his
> > > detractors. I
> > >           have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on
> Sat.
> > > In
> > >           context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have
> been
> > > told, but
> > >           rather a comment just about mclame.
> > >
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