Regardless of what artistic license may have been taken, the language used
imparts the clear impression that this AHA/Obamacare was passed without the
ALL members of Congress having clear knowledge of all details of the bill
they voted on.

Further, after the fact inspection of the bill by the public left MANY
unanswered questions as to the actual implementation of the Bill.

In particular, the Bill gave authority to write regulations, which now
number in the thousands of pages, without any oversight by Congress, yet
hold the power of Law.

ergo, IRS Rules which allow seizure of Citizens assets without legal
hearing before a Court of Law [direct violation of Constitutional Rights]
for example.
[Right to trial by jury of your peers and representation, et al ]. There
are a plethora of other like issues from other 3 letter agencies.

Even if you believe there is a "need" for public, government funded and
run, health care, this AHA/Obamacare is full of poorly executed solutions
to that perceived public need.

Really, for 18 Trillion dollars of debt, is this as good as government can
come up with?

Were I in charge for even 20 minutes.. the first 3 minutes would be
consumed with a public speech that said simply... "You're Fired, all
departments, all agencies" .... The remaining 17 minutes would be consumed
with cheers and clapping.. from the Citizen Public.

Likely followed by my assassination and a brief state funeral. ;))


On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Curt, your comment made me curious, so I turned once again to Prof. Google,
> and on Youtube here is a clip of her comment, which sounds to me like:
> "It's going to be very, very exciting.  But we have to pass the bill, so
> that you can, ahh, find out what's in it, away from the fog of the
> controversy."
>
> https://youtu.be/QV7dDSgbaQ0
>
> I don't see how any R (or Flush Limbaugh of FoxNews) has misrepresented her
> statement on this.
>
> Is there a different time when she phrased the statement differently?  I
> went through several different clips and they all seem to show the same
> moment with the same language.
>
> After it was passed, we started to find out what was in it, and the voters
> punished Nancy and the D's by electing a flood of R's in two different
> elections who have now taken over both the House and the Senate and over 30
> of the state governors.
>
> The only question mark left, in my mind, is if/when the R's take the
> Presidency and can finally overturn or reform this mess, what will they
> do?  Interesting times...
>
> -------------
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You know Pelosi actually did say "We need to pass this so we know whats
> in
> > it." right? My Dad gleefully quotes it all the time.
> > Its not the whole statement though, she actually said "Its not like we
> > need to pass this so we know whats in it."
> > Both sides are guilty of these kind of "facts" but the Rs seem a little
> > worse, Obama really did have his hand on his heart, it was photoshopped
> > around...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
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