Scr*w science.  Brew it, drink it.  End of story.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have the technology, I just never pay attention to it.  I just brew it
> and drink it!
>
> HyGrometer.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/3/16 7:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Brix is easy to measure with a hydrometer with a brix scale.  About $15
>> from your FLWS (Friendly local wino supply) or presque Isle piwine.com
>>   .   You just drop it in the brew, let it stabilize and read the brix
>> number.
>>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> August 3, 2016 at 5:55 PM
>>> I put about 5lb of sugar in my 2-2.5gal batch, I think it all got eaten
>>> by the yeastie beasties, mostly as there was still a bit in there for fizz
>>> after I bottled it.  Putting some simple syrup in a bottle after I drank a
>>> bit got it nice and sweet and fizzed up about right, so I guess that got it
>>> just beyond what the yeast could eat, there was still some yeast in there
>>> though to eat some sugar and fizz it up.  Next time I'll go with maybe
>>> 6-7lb sugar. I could do some specific gravity measures, but that is too
>>> much work!  I just want to drink it!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
>>> August 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM
>>> For naturally fermented bubbly:
>>> In order to have sweetness left at the end of fermentation, you need
>>> excess sugar beyond what is needed to produce the alcohol level that will
>>> kill the yeast.
>>>
>>> In other words, if you use red star champagne yeast, it will die off at
>>> about 16%, give or take, depending on temps.  If you start with 23 BRIX,
>>> after primary fermentation, before bottling, you will end up with a sweet
>>> bubbly (and need high pressure bottles,  Like waterloo W25.  THis is good
>>> for a winter/after dinner bubbly.  If you start with 22 brix, you will get
>>> a nice summer bubbly, less sweet.  YMMV, but this will give you a couple of
>>> starting points with specific yeast and specific bottles.
>>>
>>> The alternative is to add sulfites when you get to 3 or 5% or whatever
>>> level you want.  The sulfites will kill the yeast and stop the
>>> fermentation.  I call this the unnatural method, or the industrial method.
>>> I can't give you specifics for this because I have only made rustic, or all
>>> natural bubbly products.  A good wino supply should be able to give you
>>> specifics.   The all natural method is harder to get right, but much more
>>> satisfying.  Plus, many people can't take the sulfites.  The sulfites may
>>> produce various gastric distress, from heartburn to indigestion, Diarrhea,
>>> etc. and even allergic reactions.  People who said they could not drink
>>> wine, whom I was able to convince to try my hooch, loved it and said it did
>>> not bother them like commercial wines.
>>>
>>> In the PRCa, the wild yeast/natural fermentation wines like I made are
>>> now considered very high end stuff.  ($100/bottle) Wish I coulda got 1/4
>>> that!
>>>
>>> Also, be aware that if a naturally fermented bubbly has its temperature
>>> elevated, say 80ºF or higher, the fermentation will restart, and increase
>>> the pressure on the bottle.
>>>
>>> I once had a bottle from Von Stiehl winery in WI blow up in the back
>>> seat of my 200D while at an MBCA meeting. It was a very hot sunny day.  I
>>> think back then perhaps the good Doktor Von Stiehl did not use sulfites.
>>> (MB content)
>>>
>>> FWIW, I found some ginger beer called Pedal Hard here recently. It is
>>> quite good.  It is better than their root beer, called Row Hard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> April 8, 2016 at 7:08 PM
>>> A few weeks back I made a ginger brew, something like 4-5lb of ginger
>>> root I shredded up in the food processor then boiled it in a coupla gallons
>>> of water for an hour or so with 4-5lb of dark raw sugar.  Put it in the
>>> fermenter with some champagne yeast for about 10 days then put it in some
>>> 1L soda bottles and left it sit for 2 weeks.
>>>
>>> Tasted it and it had a little bit of fizz but no sweetness -- I guess
>>> all the sugar had been fermented.  It tasted kinda like a ginger wine, was
>>> good with a very good ginger punch.  Not bad but no sweetness.  I made some
>>> dark n' stormies with about 1/2L out of a bottle and a bit of simple syrup,
>>> then added some simple syrup to that bottle, it has sat for a week and
>>> fizzed up a bit more but is sweeter now, more like a ginger ale/beer.
>>>
>>> Made a cocktail tonight with some Goslings and my sweeter fizzier ginger
>>> brew and WOW!!!! is it good.  I think the ginger brew has a pretty good
>>> ethanol level now too.  I gave 3L away and have 9L more, so need to work on
>>> it!  More Goslings needed!
>>>
>>> OOOPS my cocktail is gone, buhbah!!!!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
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