40-45mph? Good lord I don't even think about 5th until I'm above 55. In 
actuality getting on the highway I don't get into 4th until around 50.
   
  Supposedly this car has like year old injectors which I think is possible, it 
sounds a bit more like a big rig diesel than either my 240D or 300TD did. It 
did quiet down a bit with Mobil 1 in the crankcase.
  I need to do return lines, in fact I put together a list on Rusty's site 
today (BTW the new site looks great guys but Hursty, if you're gonna say 
"between" you gotta have 2 numbers, between 30 Mercedes doesn't make sense) and 
with all my needs and *wants* filled in its like $400... Shoulda done that last 
month and gotten a specially good deal.
   
  Economy continues to improve as the old crappy fuel gets more diluted. I need 
to lay off the throttle some to get the economy way up. I started into that 
today, unlike my 240D I don't need to floor it every time I take off from a 
stop.
   
  -Curt
  '85 190D "Dory" 234kmi
  '83 240D "Hammie" 254kmi
   
  Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:37:55 -0500
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Curt Raymond wrote:
> So once again I've picked up my 190D from the Indy. Some of you might 
remember how it wouldn't shift into reverse. My Indy took the shifter 
all apart, cleaned out 21 years of crud and replaced the shift bushings. 
That took it from a super sloppy "mystery shifter" (you shift and hope 
the gear you get is the one you wanted) to a normal good shifting car. 
The reverse gate now works exactly as I'd expect it to, slide to the 
right, push down, pull back. 5th is now very easy to get into as well 
which is good I'm sure my fuel mileage was suffering by my not shifting 
into it before.
>   ALSO now the shifter doesn't lean so far to the side in 1st and 5th 
so I can hook the boot to the base without it pulling the base up, 
nice.
>   I like driving this car so much I'm now thinking I should turn down 
Fred's offer of a set of used seat bottoms and instead invest in brand 
new seat bottoms and pads for that new seat feel.
>    

Great to hear that you find the car so much fun to drive (I agree). Let 
me caution you. DO NOT hurry to shift into 5th or even 4th when driving 
at speeds less than 40-45 mph. Allow the engine to wind out to 3000+ in 
each gear. That will NOT increase fuel consumption (may even improve it 
slightly). I've been driving 190D 5 speeds (three of them with 2.0, 2.2 
and 2.5 liter engines) for more than 12 years (and >250kmi) and have 
tried driving them almost every way they can be driven (including 
getting the gear box into 5th as soon as possible).

The most common causes of poor fuel economy (after fuel leaks) are poor 
quality fuel (good fuel can improve fuel economy by 10-20%) and 
improper 
operating temp (a thermostat that's stuck even a little open can lower 
fuel economy in city/stop-and-go driving by 30% or more). Allowing the 
engine to lug can easily degrade economy by 10% or more. Shifting to a 
higher gear too soon - before the engine will be at least at the low 
end 
of the torque plateau in the gear (that's in the low/mid 2000 rpm range 
- the actual torque peak is at 2800, but it's very broad and almost 
flat) results in the excessive fuel consumption! Improper injection 
timing and poor injector condition (improper pressures or spray 
pattern) 
usually only have a minor effect of fuel economy until they are way off 
and usually there is some other presenting problem (noise, poor idle, 
smoke) before poor fuel economy is noticed.

Marshall
-- 
   Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
       "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 
2.5 
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Thanks to all for the suggestions.  Since I sent that email the lights
have been working perfectly (of course).  I will check all the suggested
places and clean the contacts this weekend.=20

=20

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K=20

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