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John Peterson wrote:
I'm so jealous of your 190 stick. I'd do anything for one of those. They
are so rare. Baby that thing.
John Peterson
Kingston RI
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From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rides again!
40-45mph? Good lord I don't even think about 5th until I'm above 55. In
actuality getting on the highway I don't get into 4th until around 50.
Supposedly this car has like year old injectors which I think is
possible, it sounds a bit more like a big rig diesel than either my 240D
or 300TD did. It did quiet down a bit with Mobil 1 in the crankcase.
I need to do return lines, in fact I put together a list on Rusty's site
today (BTW the new site looks great guys but Hursty, if you're gonna say
"between" you gotta have 2 numbers, between 30 Mercedes doesn't make
sense) and with all my needs and *wants* filled in its like $400...
Shoulda done that last month and gotten a specially good deal.
Economy continues to improve as the old crappy fuel gets more diluted. I
need to lay off the throttle some to get the economy way up. I started
into that today, unlike my 240D I don't need to floor it every time I take
off from a stop.
-Curt
'85 190D "Dory" 234kmi
'83 240D "Hammie" 254kmi
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:37:55 -0500
From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rides again!
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Curt Raymond wrote:
So once again I've picked up my 190D from the Indy. Some of you might
remember how it wouldn't shift into reverse. My Indy took the shifter
all apart, cleaned out 21 years of crud and replaced the shift bushings.
That took it from a super sloppy "mystery shifter" (you shift and hope
the gear you get is the one you wanted) to a normal good shifting car.
The reverse gate now works exactly as I'd expect it to, slide to the
right, push down, pull back. 5th is now very easy to get into as well
which is good I'm sure my fuel mileage was suffering by my not shifting
into it before.
ALSO now the shifter doesn't lean so far to the side in 1st and 5th
so I can hook the boot to the base without it pulling the base up,
nice.
I like driving this car so much I'm now thinking I should turn down
Fred's offer of a set of used seat bottoms and instead invest in brand
new seat bottoms and pads for that new seat feel.
Great to hear that you find the car so much fun to drive (I agree). Let
me caution you. DO NOT hurry to shift into 5th or even 4th when driving
at speeds less than 40-45 mph. Allow the engine to wind out to 3000+ in
each gear. That will NOT increase fuel consumption (may even improve it
slightly). I've been driving 190D 5 speeds (three of them with 2.0, 2.2
and 2.5 liter engines) for more than 12 years (and >250kmi) and have
tried driving them almost every way they can be driven (including
getting the gear box into 5th as soon as possible).
The most common causes of poor fuel economy (after fuel leaks) are poor
quality fuel (good fuel can improve fuel economy by 10-20%) and
improper
operating temp (a thermostat that's stuck even a little open can lower
fuel economy in city/stop-and-go driving by 30% or more). Allowing the
engine to lug can easily degrade economy by 10% or more. Shifting to a
higher gear too soon - before the engine will be at least at the low
end
of the torque plateau in the gear (that's in the low/mid 2000 rpm range
- the actual torque peak is at 2800, but it's very broad and almost
flat) results in the excessive fuel consumption! Improper injection
timing and poor injector condition (improper pressures or spray
pattern)
usually only have a minor effect of fuel economy until they are way off
and usually there is some other presenting problem (noise, poor idle,
smoke) before poor fuel economy is noticed.
Marshall
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Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
"der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D
2.5
turbo 237kmi
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