Good question, and one I can’t answer as I’ve never lived in a state that did 
bill of sale sales. There are people here who do, so I would defer to them.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> So, in the states that permit transfer by bill of sale, how do they know the 
> vendor owns the vehicle? Do they rely on the registration as is done here? If 
> not, it would seem fairly easy to circumvent the issue by transferring a 
> vehicle between a few people and back to the person who wants the vehicle but 
> has no evidence of ownership to permit registration.
> 
> 
>> On 10/03/2020 7:33 AM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Randy,
>> 
>> Here in the States you’re required to have a title issued by the state for 
>> any vehicles you own. On top of that you typically pay an annual 
>> registration fee, which can be based on value, age, or just a flat fee 
>> depending on the state. The registration fee covers your tags or license 
>> plate for that annual fee.
>> 
>> Not all states require titles to buy or sell a car. Some allow a bill of 
>> sale, most of which are based on the age of the vehicle, like if it’s 20 
>> years old or older for example. There can be a title for these older 
>> vehicles, but it’s not required.
>> 
>> Florida, for example, requires titles for everything regardless of age. 
>> Georgia (I think) allows a bill of sale for older vehicles.
>> 
>> There is no consistency with any of this, as it’s all determined by the 
>> state, not federal, government.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 09/03/2020 12:10 PM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>  I’m wondering how they avoid cars that have liens on them, that is, do 
>>>> they check the VIN with a source that would have information like this, 
>>>> such as the state where the transaction took place?
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>> How does it all work in the USA? Do you have some sort of "title" to the 
>>> vehicle? I once bought a Chevy Suburban here in Manitoba and received the 
>>> Texas title from the owner even though I did not need it. Here, the vehicle 
>>> registration form is part of the package that includes the licence plate 
>>> and the insurance (since we have a government run monopoly insurance 
>>> program). We are able to sell things like utility trailers without much 
>>> trouble. Most people seem unable to produce documentation for things like 
>>> utility trailers and the authorities permit us to provide a bill of sale 
>>> saying it is a homemade trailer and no one asks many questions but a car of 
>>> a truck requires that the form on the back of the registration document be 
>>> signed and provided to the buyer along with the bill of sale. If you cannot 
>>> find it, you have to go to an authorized agent and pay to get a replacement 
>>> registration document. We had to do that when we were unable to find the 
>>> papers for an old Toyota 4Runner that we sold. There may be some means of 
>>> getting proper paperwork for a vehicle if you cannot find the last 
>>> registered owner but it would no doubt be difficult and expensive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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