And don’t forget the 24V71. Definitely aren’t going to crank that one by hand…
-D > On Jan 2, 2021, at 8:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Thank you. > Definition of "Ornery" ... 8V71 Detroit 2 stroke, with the mechanical fuel > rack out of trim, Minus 12 F, with about 20 knots of icy wind blowing on > you, and the primary and secondary fuel filters full of gelled fuel. > > You replace both filters with new, fill them with fresh heated fuel [hedge > your bets however you can] Wrestle a pair of 24 volt batteries out of the > battery bay at 90 lbs each, then wrestle a fresh charged set in place [90 > lbs each, again], then crank until they are dead and find the starter is > smoking really bad... > > Pull the starter, replace it with a new one you just paid $900.00 for while > laying on frozen ground with sleet and snow blowing on you, wrestle the now > dead batteries out of the electrical bay, wrestle a fresh set in..... [this > is getting old, and I'm getting cold].... crank again.... Or.... > Remove the 3/8 pipe plug in the fuel filter fixture between primary and > secondary filter, install barbed fitting, plumb in an aux electric pump, > drop the pump pickup hose in a 5 gal can of warmed fuel. force prime the > engine system... hit start and listen to the big diesel start to rumble, > then stagger, then smooth out.... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.... what a relief it is... > > Detroit engine numbering system ... 8= Number of cylinders, V= > configuration, ie V8, V12, V16,.... 71 = Number of cubic inches > displacement for each cylinder... thus... 8V71 > No... you can't crank it by hand... ;)) > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Detroit Diesels, especially the 71 series, are notoriously difficult to >> bleed. Don’t ask me how I know. I totally understand Grant’s desire to make >> the process easier. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 4:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> No charge ... :<)))) >>> Hope it helps save frustration and starters / batteries. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ha! A boost pump like in a fuel injected aircraft - I should have >> thought >>>> of this years ago! >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:35 PM G Mann via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Before you do the next fuel filter change, spend a few bucks and get >> one >>>> of >>>>> these [or one like it] and plumb it into the fuel supply line just at >> the >>>>> fuel filter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Transfer-Universal-Pressure-2-5-4psi/dp/B07JPDZC4M/ref=pd_lpo_263_img_1/147-4172102-4367701?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07JPDZC4M&pd_rd_r=ba046a97-4646-46fe-9cc8-c5b175ac0b63&pd_rd_w=WDi6Z&pd_rd_wg=dfFZX&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z&psc=1&refRID=F6NYYHG3X997R9HDT12Z >>>>> >>>>> Put a switch on it so you control the pump, and prime the filter all >> the >>>>> way to the injection pump, crack the line nuts at the injectors and use >>>> the >>>>> cheap pump to push fuel to the injectors, ie, prime the system... your >>>>> crank time will be reduced to zip, you will save the cost of a starter >>>> down >>>>> the road, and the pump, if sized right can set in the system since fuel >>>>> will flow through it if it's not powered, or, you can simply disconnect >>>> it, >>>>> and reconnect the supply line. >>>>> >>>>> I've been using this system for 20 years to "assist" fuel filter >> changes >>>> on >>>>> large displacement Detroit powered trucks and buses I've owned which >> are >>>>> notorious for being very hard to re-prime, once you open the fuel >> system. >>>>> At $12 each... plus a few feet of fuel line and clamps.. the little >> pumps >>>>> have saved hours of aggravation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 4:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do you have to crank the engine for a minute continuously? What about >>>>>> doing it in shorter intervals until it starts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, you’re not alone. I remember my first one and how much I had to >>>>>> crank on that beast (probably in excess of two minutes, total) before >>>> it >>>>>> began to fire. I was convinced I was going to torch the starter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -D >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> probably would’ve been easier if the engine was at temperature, and >>>> I >>>>>> wasn’t such a scaredy-cat baby I’m cranking it so long. Once I cracked >>>>> the >>>>>> fittings and fuel showed up it took right off. >>>>>>>> I took the power washer to it and blew some more of the flaky old >>>>> Macco >>>>>> paint off of it. Wiped it down, wipedvthe inside out, cleaned the >>>> windows >>>>>> and then took it for about a 5 mile spin in town and on the >> interstate, >>>>> and >>>>>> I never cease to be amazed on how awesome this car is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob R >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I always changed the fuel filter or did any other injector work >>>> on a >>>>>> hot engine -- cranks much faster and uses a lot less battery power. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> OK Don >>>> >>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>>> >>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>>> Wernher >>>> Von Braun >>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
