Yeah, one of those things with dogs. You may mistakenly think at first that
they're being bad, but they turn out to have a good excuse. You can just
hope that you haven't cursed at them too badly. The tough thing is 99
percent of the time, they are actually being bad.

So Joel sounds like a great dog. I haven't researched or had experience with
guide dogs. I know that they're supposed to stop at curbs and in so doing
let you know where the curb is? But what about where there is a less
well-defined crossing into the path of traffic? Like a dirt path that
crosses a road or something like that. Does that just boil down to a riskier
situation?

Brian


On 1/20/07, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know all about trying to get Joel loaded into the car and having him
refuse to get in or jumping in really slow only to find something
OBSTRUCTING his path!  "Hey, DUMMY!"  "My harness is on the seat along
with
your backpack!"  "How am I supposed to lie there????"

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula


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