Well, he is about as far left to hitler as you are going to get in this country. He is by far the farthest thing left that has been a top candidate.
LarryT wrote: > And it's been proposed by obama - a man we know virtually nothing about. > WHat little we do know it not very good. He proposes Change - the same > thing hitler ran on - change without specifics. not that obama is hitler - > but we know little about him - like his 20 years listening to a preacher who > hates America yet obama called him his mentor and friend - not good. True > we've only heard small parts of the sermons - but it's hard to believe the > sermons we have not heard were telling about how wonderful America is. > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] America's Climate Security Act > > >> And while we on the topic of "gummint", here's what is working its >> way thru the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (Sen. Biden is Chairman) >> >> S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007 (introduced by Sen. Barack Obama >> in December, 2007) >> A bill to require the President to develop and implement a >> comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy >> objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the >> elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the >> Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of >> people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per >> day. For more info Google S. 2433... >> >> In my opinion, it's an attempt to get the world to like us by >> "sharing" our wealth. And it is due to be managed by the UN, that >> does not have a stellar record on financial management nor getting >> the "stuff" to the people that need it. . >> >> Off the rant box........ >> >> Chuck >> >> Phoenix AZ >> >> On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: >> >>> The real anwer is to 1) agree we have a problem, and 2) do the hard >>> work >>> necessary to solve it, which must necessarily include at least some >>> sacrifice for everyone on the planet. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Rich Thomas < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Would that were true. The problem I see with this is that it is yet >>>> another thing created by lobbyists and those looking to raise >>>> taxes with >>>> no clear point to it other than to screw the taxpayers, again, in >>>> a new >>>> way under the scare of global warming or climate change or >>>> whatever is >>>> the current fad name. (Back in the 70s, the gloom and doom was >>>> global >>>> cooling, we were all going to freeze and starve in the dark. Big >>>> "oooops" by the scientists on that one I guess.) >>>> >>>> Things like this have no measurable effect on the ostensible goal >>>> but do >>>> have a way of taking lots money from one pot (that would be yours and >>>> mine) with taxes, either direct or indirect, and putting it in >>>> another >>>> pot (that would be those who feed at the trough) for "programs." >>>> That >>>> is just the way it works, rhetoric and laudable goals are just >>>> lipstick >>>> on the pig. >>>> >>>> The real problem is that the developing world all wants to live like >>>> those of us in the developed world, and will do whatever they need to >>>> get there (e.g., building lots of cheap and dirty CFPPs as fast as >>>> they >>>> can build them). That is not good, and this "legislation" will do >>>> nothing to affect that. The Indians and Chinese really could not >>>> care >>>> less what we think about their practices in that regard -- they have >>>> their own people to answer to, and carbon emissions are pretty low on >>>> their scale of concerns. >>>> >>>> The real answer is not to tax us to death, it's to spend some >>>> money on >>>> actually trying to do something to develop practical alternatives, >>>> whether conservation, new sources of energy, better technology, or >>>> anything else. That gives us something to sell to those who want >>>> to be >>>> like us, and weans us from the wackos who sell us oil now. It's a >>>> lot >>>> easier to raise taxes for some dubious purpose though, and seem like >>>> they have "done something." So far, none of the politicians have >>>> stepped up to the real hard problem, and I expect none of them will. >>>> More panem et circes for the masses though. >>>> >>>> --R >>>> >>>> andrew strasfogel wrote: >>>>> It's about time they did something useful. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Rich Thomas < >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Y'all might want to edumacate yourselves on this thing our >>>>>> Congresscritters are going to do for us. >>>>>> >>>>>> --R >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121244985951839615.html? >>>> mod=opinion_main_commentaries >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. 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