Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 01:38:14PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote:
>   
>> So all answer say that nouveau DRI driver  on gallium is not readdy.
>> May be people should then refrain posting hype like this!
>>     
>
> Since when did 'this _development_ release will be an _initial
> milestone_ / roll-out of the Gallium bits' (emphasis mine) count as
> hype? It's not like the article says 'SWEET JESUS GALLIUM HERE AND BY
> GOD IT'S BRILLIANT AND DEFINITELY COMPLETELY FINISHED AND YOU SHOULD
> ALL USE IT'.
>   

Sorry if it disappoint you but, honestly, from the article I had the
feeling that 7.5 will have gallium 3D for nouveau and unless I'm
mistaken an RC2 is not far from final release ( at least by my PERSONAL
standards). Besides what you wrote in lower vase is by no way in this
article.

Life for Linux users with recent graphic cards is very hard ATM. I have
one laptop with Intel GM45 (and NVIDIA with hybrid graphic), and it took
me nearly 5 month to get KMS, Intel console frame buffer and X working
peacefully toghether. Libdrm, Xserver, Intel driver where quite hard to
maintain in sync, and KMS simply broke it for months (missed
event/interrupts). Had to wait until 2.6.30-rc6 kernel version. This is
by no way supported by debian even using experimental bits. Most people
are unable to do it.

For my destop with nvidia chip, KDE4 is just too slow without nouveau.
Enabling Nouveau 2D make the shutdown sequence hang for nearly 5 mins
probably stuck in some DMA operation (I cannot even enter in the kernel
with the magic sysrq to know what hangs). And my favorite APP for
streaming video and audio in the house is still broken.

On vista I just had to download and install. I've been using linux
exclusively at home and work for nearly 15 years, but sometimes I'm a
bit disappointed. I know that sometime o have to undertake serious
rework. KDE4 was one exemple. I understand X state required some heavy
rework. But instead of telling people "this is not for you", you should
consider hunting bugs instead of waiting months until distro package it.

Anyway, thanks for all the work and I hope, with your efforts,  (open
source) graphic application will work as well in Linux as in Windows.

--eric




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