On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 02:25:56PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote:
> Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 01:38:14PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote:
> >> So all answer say that nouveau DRI driver  on gallium is not readdy.
> >> May be people should then refrain posting hype like this!
> >
> > Since when did 'this _development_ release will be an _initial
> > milestone_ / roll-out of the Gallium bits' (emphasis mine) count as
> > hype? It's not like the article says 'SWEET JESUS GALLIUM HERE AND BY
> > GOD IT'S BRILLIANT AND DEFINITELY COMPLETELY FINISHED AND YOU SHOULD
> > ALL USE IT'.
> 
> Sorry if it disappoint you but, honestly, from the article I had the
> feeling that 7.5 will have gallium 3D for nouveau and unless I'm
> mistaken an RC2 is not far from final release ( at least by my PERSONAL
> standards). Besides what you wrote in lower vase is by no way in this
> article.

What?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE4OQ

It's the second half of the third paragraph: specifically, the only part
where they actually quote the release announcement.

> Life for Linux users with recent graphic cards is very hard ATM. I have
> one laptop with Intel GM45 (and NVIDIA with hybrid graphic), and it took
> me nearly 5 month to get KMS, Intel console frame buffer and X working
> peacefully toghether. Libdrm, Xserver, Intel driver where quite hard to
> maintain in sync, and KMS simply broke it for months (missed
> event/interrupts). Had to wait until 2.6.30-rc6 kernel version. This is
> by no way supported by debian even using experimental bits. Most people
> are unable to do it.
> 
> For my destop with nvidia chip, KDE4 is just too slow without nouveau.
> Enabling Nouveau 2D make the shutdown sequence hang for nearly 5 mins
> probably stuck in some DMA operation (I cannot even enter in the kernel
> with the magic sysrq to know what hangs). And my favorite APP for
> streaming video and audio in the house is still broken.
> 
> On vista I just had to download and install. I've been using linux
> exclusively at home and work for nearly 15 years, but sometimes I'm a
> bit disappointed. I know that sometime o have to undertake serious
> rework. KDE4 was one exemple. I understand X state required some heavy
> rework. But instead of telling people "this is not for you", you should
> consider hunting bugs instead of waiting months until distro package it.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for all the work and I hope, with your efforts,  (open
> source) graphic application will work as well in Linux as in Windows.

We're getting there.

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