I am not calling it boring.  I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram 
exciting.  The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more 
than 10 times higher than Pultusk!  In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a 
gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy.

Adam





----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]>
Cc: Adam <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. 
Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes 
on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it 
isn't!
Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on 
the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer falls and 
> some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically, there is way more 
> bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary 
> fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering 
> price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of 
> their initial offer price.  For the most part, unless some dealer becomes 
> desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have 
> the best record for maintaining price in the long run.
> 
> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a 
> dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can purchase very old witnessed 
> falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much 
> higher.  I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. 
> 
> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
> To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]> 
> Cc: Adam <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
> 
> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the 
> world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of 
> stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already 
> dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has 
> excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. 
> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection 
> in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people.
> I know where I am going to put my money.
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary 
>> Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with 
>> thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% 
>> of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off.  The 
>> real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get 
>> their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly.  On the other hand, the 
>> way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless 
>> pairings and competition drag the price down.
>> 
>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I 
>> am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>    
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Matt Morgan <[email protected]>
>> To: Mark Ford <[email protected]>; 
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
>> 
>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>> 
>> Mark Ford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>> 
>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
>>> Martian..
>>> 
>>> lol
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mendy
>>> Ouzillou
>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
>>> one)
>>> 
>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>> 
>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would
>>> ignore the rules and get both. 
>>> 
>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Matt Morgan <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>>> pick
>>>> one)
>>>> 
>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively
>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will
>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones.
>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>> meteorite.
>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more
>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material.
>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael 
>>>> Farmer
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own
>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall
>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is
>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>> collections. 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Ford <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at 
>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
>>>>>> one)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>> meteorites/asteroids! 
>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small 
>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the
>>> choices:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent
>>> 
>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can 
>>>>>> never have the other!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders 
>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960
>>>>>> 
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