I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor <graham.en...@gmail.com> wrote: > So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued > meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA > or UK...what would have the price been....and yet what is the > difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. > > Graham > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> wrote: >> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. >> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. >> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying >> fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary >> meteorite, it isn't! >> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite >> on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"! >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and >>> some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more >>> bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary >>> fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering >>> price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% >>> of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer >>> becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary >>> finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. >>> >>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a >>> dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old >>> witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking >>> prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. >>> >>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> >>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) >>> >>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in >>> the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands >>> of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already >>> dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has >>> excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. >>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every >>> collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. >>> I know where I am going to put my money. >>> >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary >>>> Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with >>>> thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose >>>> 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. >>>> The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors >>>> get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, >>>> the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer >>>> unless pairings and competition drag the price down. >>>> >>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I >>>> am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com> >>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk>; >>>> "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick >>>> one) >>>> >>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. >>>> >>>> Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) >>>>> >>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the >>>>> Martian.. >>>>> >>>>> lol >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy >>>>> Ouzillou >>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 >>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan >>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick >>>>> one) >>>>> >>>>> Agreed, they are both cool. >>>>> >>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would >>>>> ignore the rules and get both. >>>>> >>>>> Mendy Ouzillou >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> >>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com> >>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" >>>>>> <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only >>>>> pick >>>>>> one) >>>>>> >>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively >>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will >>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. >>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a >>>>> meteorite. >>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more >>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. >>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:) >>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael >>>>>> Farmer >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own >>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall >>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is >>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our >>>>> collections. >>>>>>> Matt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at >>>>>>>> the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Don Merchant >>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 >>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant >>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick >>>>>>>> one) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of >>>>> meteorites/asteroids! >>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small >>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the >>>>> choices: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent >>>>> >>>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can >>>>>>>> never have the other! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely >>>>>>>> Don Merchant >>>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders >>>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Matt Morgan >>>>>>> Mile High Meteorites >>>>>>> PO Box 151293 >>>>>>> Lakewood CO 80215 USA >>>>>>> http://www.mhmeteorites.com >>>>>>> Find Us on Facebook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Morgan >>>> Mile High Meteorites >>>> PO Box 151293 >>>> Lakewood CO 80215 USA >>>> http://www.mhmeteorites.com >>>> Find Us on Facebook >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
