I saw the map in an article on reviewjournal.com
Ben
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> On Dec 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Larry Atkins <thetop...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Ben, List,
>
> Ben says "The map of the Gold Butte National Monument that I saw on line,
> went from the border of the Lake Mead Recreational Park on the west,
> to the Arizona Border on the east and south, and almost to the the
> highway near Mesquite to the north."
>
> That encompasses the Nevada side of GB, game over! I sure am glad I got in
> there when I did.
>
> I think the vast majority of people are all for protecting archeological
> sites, dino bones and tracks, etc. I sure am. However, I've always been a fan
> of the 'middle of the road' when it comes to many things, it doesn't always
> have to be all or nothing. Closing off that much land makes no sense at all
> and Adam hit the nail on the head, there's such a thing as over regulation.
> And hey Mike, you don't have to make all that land off limits to stop trailer
> parks, be serious friend. I spent weeks and weeks in the Gold Butte area and
> saw nary a soul. This place has built in protections.. it's remote! The few
> people I saw didn't even get out of the car let alone pillage and plunder,
> and again, like Adam said, if thieves have a mind to steal, they will, and
> with impunity because nobody is there to report them anyway. I'm all for
> protecting what needs protecting but some of this stuff is out of hand. If
> laws are going to be passed like this there should be input from the people
> that actuall
y use the land and have an interest in it, and some common sense should be
applied.
> An example of nonsense rules, I can't collect pottery chips or worked stone
> but it's perfectly legal and okay for the cattle to pulverize it into
> oblivion. That makes no sense and leads to a lack of confidence in the
> officials that make the policies. Or how about not being able to swim in some
> of the reservoirs in California because it's a protected water body, but look
> over there, it's a herd of 40 cows standing chest deep dropping poop bombs
> into the drinking water! Someone needs to explain the logic in these things
> if they think it's the right way to manage the land.
>
> We all know that prohibiting the collection of meteorites on federal land is
> a bad idea. Those meteorites will never be found by scientists or "officials"
> and thus will be lost to science forever. How about some compromise?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
> IMCA # 1941
> Ebay alienrockfarm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Larry Atkins <thetop...@aol.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; raremeteorites
> <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 2:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
>
> The map of the Gold Butte National Monument that I saw on line,
> went from the border of the Lake Mead Recreational Park on the west,
> to the Arizona Border on the east and south, and almost to the the
> highway near Mesquite to the north.
> Ben
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> Adam, List,
>>
>> I've not seen the boundary lines for the Gold Butte closure but I think it's
>> safe to say a large portion of the Nevada side Gold Basin strewn field is
>> now off limits, how unfortunate.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Larry Atkins
>>
>> IMCA # 1941
>> Ebay alienrockfarm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 9:49 am
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
>>
>> Another 1.65 million acres on top of the record setting 553 million acres,
>> including the entire Mohave corridor, has taken out of action by Obama with
>> no input from the public whatsoever.
>>
>> http://mynews4.com/news/local/obama-names-gold-butte-nevada-monument-despite-opposition
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/29/obamas-historic-land-grab-553-million-acres-conservation/
>>
>> This is what meteorite hunters and future generations will be greeted by:
>>
>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/Jeep/ClosedNationilizedTrail.jpg
>>
>> Note the logs blocking a once, well used trail! I wonder how many trees
>> have to be cut down in order to "protect" an additional 1.65 million acres.
>>
>> People who have never left urban areas should not make choices about land
>> they have never seen!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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