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-----Original Message-----
From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:22 PM
To: Raremeteorites
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
NOW, you are insulting all of us---sell "one" of your special
off road vehicles and you'll be able to pay for the best medical
plan on the planet for 10 years !!
Stop this thread
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
I thought this was about land grabs, not a crappy healthcare system that has
more than doubled in costs in Arizona this year. I am self employed and do
not take any government subsidies is the reason it is so expensive for us.
I could let my wife go without and pay the fines (taxes) is the only choice
I see. My wife has no preexisting conditions so we would be much better off
with a privately offered HSA. In any case, healthcare should be left up to
the invidividual not the government in my opinion.
Now back to the outrageous land grabs occurring at an historic rate! 200
acres could protect the historic monument yet over a million acres was taken
from us.
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <[email protected]>
To: "Raremeteorites" <[email protected]>; "Meteorite Mailing
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
Adam, why would you be "forced" to put your wife on Obamacare? I'm just
curious. There is nothing whatsoever forcing you to do anything. You are
free and clear to select any medical insurance offered. No one is forced
into Obamacare, so that's just bullshit.
Why would you get reimbursed for a hospital visit? You pay your copay or
decidable and they pay the rest. That's all.
Michael
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 29, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]> wrote:
John and List,
The good news is that people are being made aware of the problems facing
meteorite hunters. You can only solve a problem by admitting there is one
in the first place.
I will never complain or be jealous about honest people who work hard and
have a few things to show for it. Hard work is what built this nation.
Sure, I complain about other things but I do something about it. If I
want something, I will work 80 hours a week to get it. I once worked 14
years straight running a company without taking a single sick or vacation
day off. I even brokered deals on the phone with sterile gauze in my mouth
right after getting four wisdom teeth pulled without making any excuses.
My idea of a vacation was presenting our US made products at a trade show
in Las Vegas once a year.
On the other hand, most of what I earn goes to others either in the way of
being ripped off by people I once trusted, taxes or charity. I prefer
charity. Most of those valuables you mention in warehouses were donated,
seven truck loads this year alone.
I enjoy meteorite hunting, just like I used to enjoy treasure hunting
before it became overregulated. Hunting for meteorites is not cheap thus
the proper equipment which happens to be expensive. Most successful
hunters I read about have invested an enormous amount, if not in
equipment, then in time.
As far as land goes, this is my new career so I am keenly interested in
it. Most invest in some form of retirement. I have no faith in 401Ks or
Social Security so choose to invest in land for the time being. If there
happens to be gold or other valuable mineral resources, I enjoy working
the land to extract a small amount to help offset the enormous investment
involved with such endeavors.
And as far as Obamacare is concerned, I was forced to put my wife on this
worthless healthcare "insurance." I was lucky to keep my existing plan
which actually pays out benefits. We have paid tens of thousands of
dollars into the "Affordable Healthcare Act" for my wife and have not
collected a single penny in reimbursement despite visits to the hospital.
Happy hunting while you still can,
Adam
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lutzon" <[email protected]>
To: "Raremeteorites" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
Hello Adam,
I wish you and yours all best and a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
You have have contributed Much to this community and much to be
admired for. As we all know this is not the forum for land acquisitions,
although it makes for good reading & knowledge, but since you opened
the door..............
In the past, you have talked about your gold mining operation, large
tracks
of land you own, warehouses full of valuables and your fancy off-road
vehicles--and a high priced car that you didn't want to get mud on during
a rainy Tuscon Show----And in the same breath you stated that you can't
find affordable health care. No Adam, I can't (and many others) afford
good health care. Please Sir !!!!
Youv'e been on this stump before---nothing but bitch, bitch, bitch......
With your resourses, Do something ! Do Something !!
The next post I would to see from you is----Iv'e contacted
senator, congressman so/so and got Bill # so/so passed
that opens up some properties to serious rockhounds etc.
And, no Adam, this is Not insulting, you may have been
insulting to this list by sitting too high on the horse.
Again, please come back with some Good news for the
Meteorite Hunters.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
Protected from what, citizens and non-citizens trying to enjoy the
out-of-doors?
If thieves want to get to the these archeological sites, remove dinosaur
tracks or go after fossils, blocking roads will make it simpler for them.
There will be nobody else around, since this land can no longer be used
for
recreational purposes, to watch over these treasures. All of the
protection
built into the great pyramids in Egypt did very little to stop looters.
There is such thing as overregulation which usually results in the lose
of
freedom. I do not take it lightly when some idiotic bureaucrat takes
these
freedoms away.
You can stick to paved roads but many of us prefer to actually enjoy
public
lands that were intended for public use by our forefathers.
It will not be long before meteorite hunters are considered thieves due
to
the ridiculous 1906 Antiquities laws which were never intended to
nationalize vast areas of land without any public input whatsoever.
The meteorite collection weight limit on public land has now been reduced
to
Zero pounds.
Adam
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Black" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
He also protected thousands of archaeological sites, dinosaur tracks,
fossils,....... Thousands more square miles need to be protected too, as
soon as possible.
Thank you Mr. President.
Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]>
To: meteorite-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
Stupidity. An urban-dwelling bureaucrat trying to set a record and
control
vast areas of the United States by nationalizing it. Come on, 29
separate
land grabs representing over 553 million acres now off-limits to
off-road
enthusiasts, hunters, rock hounds and meteorite hunters? It seems the
idiots in Washington DC. don't care about recreational land use and want
everybody to be herded like cattle on the paved and decaying
infrastructure.
I hope this generation appreciates the little freedom we have left out.
Wide open ranges and public land used for public purposes are quickly
becoming a thing of the past.
Adam
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Atkins" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
Adam, List,
I've not seen the boundary lines for the Gold Butte closure but I think
it's
safe to say a large portion of the Nevada side Gold Basin strewn field
is
now off limits, how unfortunate.
Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
IMCA # 1941
Ebay alienrockfarm
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