Jack,

I seem to remember reading that "in the old days" you had HD? drives for
ATA (now PATA) drives and SD? for SCSI drives.  Then, when USB drives came
out and became popular someone decided to use SD? drive names for BOTH SCSI
and USB drives.  The problem then was that if a USB drive was connected at
power-on, SOMETIMES it was actually recognized before the built in drives.
 This caused problems in that the "?" letter of the drives were not always
the same.  The problem was addressed by using a Volume ID, but at install
time you would still be tormented by the potential of having a USB drive
sometimes pop up before the internal drive.

I got in the habit of keeping external drives disconnected until after I
booted, or if I was installing, until after the installer had started.

Wes


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:00 AM, James E. LaBarre 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2012 07:26 AM, Jack Chastain wrote:
>>
>>> I pulled my USB-based disk off the system and tried the Ubuntu disk
>>> again - This time, the install sees only my SECOND disk (E: in Windows -
>>> never worked out why it isn't D, but it isn't C: - which I think is
>>> where I want things, yes? - that would be sda. I am seeing sdb) I did
>>> NOT continue.
>>>
>>
>> Windows (at least up through XP) *must* be installed on the first disk,
>> as far as I know.  As for your system showing the second HDD as "E:"; I'm
>> presuming it was added after XP had been installed.  XP will hard-code
>> drive letters, but that can be changed under ControlPanel | Administrative
>> Tools | Computer Management | Disk Management.  Just change the CD/DVD to a
>> different letter, change the HDD to D:, then change the CD/DVD to E:.
>>
>
> Yeah - this isn't important at all - just not - quite - what was ...
> expected. I have to train myself to understand my disks don't run "c: D: E:
> now - but actually (under that other OS) C: E; H: - not a big problem, just
> messes with the finger memories.
>
>>
>> Of course, that still doesn't answer the problem of Ubuntu not seeing the
>> first drive.  If you boot with something like PartedMagic, does that see
>> your drives appropriately?  And if it does, you could use that to shrink
>> the XP "C:" partition, then see if the Ubuntu installer sees the disk
>> correctly.
>>
>
> Ubuntu - apparently - DOES see all the drives - but the install only
> presents the last one in the pull-down list for the automated install.
>  Chris and I are pretty sure this is a bug in the install code - but when
> you have someone (Chris!) who knows what they are doing (NOT me!) and you
> use the "Advanced" method - everything is there and pretty much perfectly
> understandable.
>
> I doesn't appear to my eye that Ubuntu 
> knows<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#QuantalQuetzal.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Installation>this
>  is an issue. I will probably work with Chris to get it listed.
>
> JC
>
>
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>
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