Thanks for the help, Stephanie. Silly question: I'm looking at the Garrett
site(
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/turbo_comparison_sheet.htm)...
Will any turbo of GT25something or GT28something fit my old FM2/Bell cast
log manifold? What model number is the old FM2 T25/28 sleeve turbo anyhow?
Is that the GT2860R?

Also, looking at the GT2871 on the chart, it's spec-ed for 250 - 480 hp,
depending on compressor size. Seems too big to me, but you're the second
person to suggest that very turbo. Since I'm shooting for "just" 300whp for
the street, it looks to me like the GT2860RS (250 - 360hp) is more
appropriately sized... or are you thinking that after drivetrain/efficiency
losses it'd be maxed out? (Or are you just wanting to see me in a 450hp
Miata?? ok twist my arm, heh...)

At this point, I'm leaning towards just freshening my '99 head (prolly just
valve guides) and leaving it stock. But thanks for John's contact info -- my
local guy isn't returning voice mail, and we have several other projects
going on that will require some lovin.

--Jerry


On 3/17/08, Stephanie Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  The old manifold will work fine. Just be sure to use it with a turbo that
> has the GT25/28 bolt pattern flange. 300 whp is reaching the upper limits of
> the T25/T28 hybrid that you have, so you might want to try the GT2871.
>
>
>
> You will probably have to go with the lighter "Pro" Flywheel as ACT has
> discontinued the other one. However, someone might still have the street
> disc on the shelf.
>
>
>
> Try calling John Long at 512-472-4977 @ JC Auto Spec for the head work. He
> does all of our engine builds and does a good job.
>
>
>
> Stephanie
>
>
>
> BEGi/Bell Engineering
>
> Phone: 830-438-2890
>
> Fax: 830-438-8361
>
> www.bellengineering.net
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Malsam
> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2008 11:43 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* 300whp street '97 1.8L build
>
>
>
> Spring is upon us, and the time has come to "upgrade" my old '97 1.8L FM
> II turbo system (230wftlb/230whp) and get the car back on the road. I've
> been out of the loop for a while (my excuse = Spec Miata!), so I'm looking
> for some current build/planning advice to reach my power goal of a
> *streetable* 300whp on 93 octane -- can I get there from here or am I being
> unrealistic?
>
> First things first, I need to cut my engine builder loose on ordering
> engine parts. The old engine will be mostly replaced, keeping only the stock
> block and crank. The old block has some taper and will need to be bored to
> at least 0.020" over, IIRC. (I'm probably going 0.040"/1mm over, as that
> leaves some room for future rebuild while allowing the use of off-the-shelf
> pistons.) I have a used '99 head for the project.
> - These coated, 9:1 FM Wiseco pistons look perfect:
> http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php...10%20%201990-93<http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4530&parentid=0&stocknumber=04-69110%20%201990-93>
> - Carrillo A-beam rods should be fine:
> http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php...number=04-66005<http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4530&parentid=0&stocknumber=04-66005>
> - What prep work should I spec for the '99 head? (The FM-prepped head
> looks nice, but wow pricey!)
>
> Thinking ahead to the turbo system:
> - I had the old FM2 turbo rebuilt -- a Garrett T25/28 hybrid (IIRC),
> sleeve bearing, water/oil cooled -- but I'm thinking I need to just sell it
> and get a bigger turbo (for the hp goal) with ball-bearing (for decent
> spool). What is an appropriate unit that will fit the Garrett flange? Can I
> stick with an integral wastegate (for simplicity/cost)? My plan is to run
> about 230whp every day, with another 70hp on tap for "special occasions" via
> electronic boost control (nifty Apex'i AVC-R).
> - I'd like to keep the old cast log-type exhaust manifold for reliability.
> Will this thing flow well-enough to keep up or should I look at a tubular
> model?
> - Upgrade old FM2 downpipe? I don't know what new/improved models are out
> there.
> - I currently have RC Engineering 550cc injectors. Are they adequate to
> the task? I probably should upgrade the fuel pump, as I think I'm still on
> the stock unit.
> - I'm hoping to retain my old FM Link to save cost, but will upgrade to an
> AEM EMS if need be. (I have a good bit of experience with this ECU from
> tuning my friend's F Production race car.)
> - DDMWorks has an amazingly efficient intercooler and they can help with
> some cleaner, custom piping.
>
> Other bits:
> - I have an upgraded FM aluminum radiator, and I plan to add a real oil
> cooler as well. Unfortunately, I need to keep the air-conditioning for the
> hot/humid South Carolina summers.
> - I'm having the stock 5-speed tranny rebuilt. Will this thing hold up
> for, say, at least 20k miles in stock form or is it completely hopeless? Is
> it true that the later 6-speed is more reliable?
> - The clutch/flywheel need replacing. Looks like the FM "super-size happy
> meal" is the way to go, probably the lighter 10.3lb flywheel:
> http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php...6000%20%2013.45<http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4531&parentid=0&stocknumber=08-36000%20%2013.45>
>
> Well, that's my thinking so far; please jump in if you see something amiss
> or just want to confirm my thinking. I should note that while I'm a big fan
> of FM, I'm by no means married to them -- if somebody else is doing Great
> Things these days, I'm all ears!
>
>
> (FYI, also posted to miata.net Turbo forum)
>
>
> Thanks!
> --Jerry
>
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