My wife use to design air conditioning systems for warehouses. When deciding I 
couldn't stand the summertime weather in Dallas and needed to move I busted out 
her ASHRE Handbook to help me figure where to go. It was pretty interesting. 
Required cooling load including what the human body does to cool itself fallows 
average daily wet bulb temperature pretty closely it takes more energy to Air 
condition in on an average summer day in Chicago than it does in Phoenix. It is 
also much worse in Dallas than Phoenix. The gulf coast and southeast cities 
dominate the AC load requirements, yes it is heat and humidity not just heat. 
Alice Texas just inland of Corpus Christi was the worst place in the US that 
was listed. Another thing you will notice is the average daily swing in 
temperature for those high wet bulb temp cities is very small. It doesn't cool 
down when the sun goes down. Heavy humid air doesn't like to change temp very 
rapidly. Phoenix will add another 20 degrees in daily temperature swing making 
it so it can get quite comfortable at night even though its in the 100's during 
the day. the whole Midwest is not so good. I remember days in the 100's in 
Dallas where it stayed above 100 all night long. this sort of negates the 
benefit of avoiding cooling your house during the day while your not there 
because if you let the temp go up it requires a huge amount of energy during a 
very humid part of the day to get it to cool down again. Two central air 
handling units running full blast would take hours to get the house comfortable 
again and not likely before bedtime. Summertime evening thunderstorms that pop 
up out of nowhere are a frequent and almost nightly occurrence as the sun goes 
down. Ever been in a rainstorm when its 98 degrees out? I can tell you from 
experience physical activity in those conditions can put the human body into 
severe heat stress. You are not likly to see a combination of 98+ ambient 
temparature and rain at the same time in Phonex. You would also never think the 
sky is blue more of a hazy off white due to the humidity haze all the time. 

My current house here in the San Juan Islands of North Western Washington has 
no air conditioning, Average summertime highs in the mid 70's. And during the 
winter here there is also minimal need for additional heat, Wintertime average 
lows in the mid 40's . The only better places climate wise is probably Hawaii 
and maybe a few locations in California in my view. 

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jason C 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Ray Ayala 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: NMC, NPC; E85 article


        The amount of energy consumed by heating a northern latitude house in 
the winter is greater than that used by cooling a more southern house in the 
summer.  Phoenix excepted maybe :).


        --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

          From: Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          Subject: Re: NMC, NPC; E85 article
          To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
          Cc: [email protected]
          Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 12:43 PM


          Unfortunately they dump far more heat outside than they remove from 
the inside.  

          ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
            To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
            Cc: [email protected] 
            Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:37 PM
            Subject: Re: NMC, NPC; E85 article


            I can understand warming caused by use of a furnace, but I'm less 
convinced about air conditioning. A/C simply takes heat from the sun that heats 
up a building and transfers that heat into the air. If the building was not 
there, the sun would still shine and the heat would still be here. Or am I 
missing something?

            Or, are you referring to the power plant generating the electricity 
that powers the A/C? In which case, yes, a considerable amount of electricity 
is used to heat and cool buildings. 

            Jim in Tucson 


            In a message dated 8/8/2008 5:33:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
              There's lot's of green emphasis on automobile usage but I never 
hear anybody mention the warming that's caused directly and immediately by air 
conditioner usage.  I guess that might be a less popular subject with the 
voting public.





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